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The GoonSwarm Recruitment Scam [LIVE SCREENSHOTS, LOL] DEVs WELCOME

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Azis Troyanov
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#1 - 2014-08-09 01:40:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Azis Troyanov
Hello everyone,

I'd like to start this thread off by first explaining myself and my current situation.

You see, EVE Online is a social game. Player interaction is a core feature in the game and without it, this game wouldn't really be anything super special. The community is strong, the DEVs are leniant, and the game is a sandbox.
With that in mind, let's begin...


I have played EVE since April of 2013 and was brought here by the tales of epic space battles and other Internet Space Ship fun. Recently, I've been getting a bit bored doing lowsec FW and hisec lvl 4 missions in my slow Battleship. So, I decided to turn to some fun nullsec PvP!

Naturally, the first people I turned to was the infamous GoonSwarm Federation. The legends surrounding them seem to have no end as they crusade with fiery pitchforks through nullsec systems. Keep in mind, that in a Vacuum environment, fire cannot exist. So, I thought they must have been pretty badass to make it happen. Now, the first thing I did was google, "GoonSwarm Recruitment" and was presented with forum post after forum post of recruitment scams. I decided to try it anyway and was presented with the same thing, a 1.5Billion ISK "deposit" for joining GoonSwarm. After realizing that the Goon wiki even says that there is no deposit required, I flipped them off, I happily went back to hisec missioning.

Later in the month, I got bored again, and tried to join TEST Alliance, another one of the infamous alliances in the game. Their logo was awesome, the name 'TEST Alliance Please Ignore' sounded hilarious, and they seemed like a lot of fun. So, I decided to join them! After being rejected from Dreddit for not being active enough on Reddit, I applied to Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society and was again rejected, this time for not being a good match for their corp's goals. That's fine with me, I can just try somewhere else, no hard feelings! After applying to several more corporations and continuously either getting no response (because they weren't even in TEST anymore) or being rejected with the reason, "I don't need to give you a reason, deal with it", I was accepted by a new TEST corp called Pilots of Epic. The interview went smoothly, just like with .DIX and I was glad to be a part of the team! Unfortunately, due to my higher than normal amount of applications, I was removed from the corporation because I was feared to be some Goon AWOXer or spy. After having a chat with my very supportive new friends of less than 24 hours, they agreed they would try their best to get me back in, but in the meantime, I'd have to go.

Satisfied with my supportive friends, I decided to have a little fun whilst I was awaiting response from my old TEST buddies. So, I decided to apply to GoonSwarm again, just to see if it *would* happen, not that I had any sort of spite against my old Alliance. Now we begin...

TL/DR = Kicked from TEST, tried to Join Goons and expose their recruitment scam for fun. Album below!

Please note: I knew that this was most likely to be a scam. I parted with my ISK willingly. This is not a butthurt post, but one designed to educate others on scams in EVE online and to improve the community.

After applying to alot of different GoonSwarm corps, I came across Enlightened Industries and spoke to their recruiter, PanPipe. After the little interview, he told me recruitment was closed. I asked him what other corp might be good and he told me to try [AM0K] Amok. So, I submitted an application and was contacted by one of their recruiters named Mark Harkness. We had a little chat, I submitted my API, he gave me a recruiter code, and I submitted my app.
http://i.imgur.com/YztlxXv.png

I was very happy at the 700ISK deposit, so I let him know about my total joy. Suddenly I was presented with a 700,000,000 ISK deposit, which he then gracefully lowered after speaking to his 'advisor' Cool about.
http://i.imgur.com/ZfGXWC4.png

After bargaining hard, he lowered it again to 200m (what a STEAL!)
http://i.imgur.com/j04tGt9.png

Here is where it gets funny. I opened up a note in-game and started writing down all these goodies as the conversation progressed. PLEASE READ THE CONVO AS THE SNAPSHOTS PROGRESS!

http://i.imgur.com/PsM3Xog.png

http://i.imgur.com/ZCRQfv8.png Says there MUST be an ISK deposit.

http://i.imgur.com/5C6swAk.png This is the guy.

http://i.imgur.com/EQYdV51.png I'm doing this for YOU guys!

http://i.imgur.com/Y4Un52l.png Please donate for my hard work! Roll

http://i.imgur.com/VVXmcuN.png He has confidence! (and I enlarge the font from here on out)

http://i.imgur.com/pEZ7wQg.png The goons are punctual!

http://i.imgur.com/uthS1X0.png System automation! Realtime goon documenting! I should work for national GEO!

http://i.imgur.com/vCLXn3e.png Officious sites

http://i.imgur.com/TCB9tdQ.png Goon logic, hahaha

http://i.imgur.com/s3vGRxy.png Goon Grammar, as well.

Here I go! http://i.imgur.com/10eFU7H.png

Paying! http://i.imgur.com/YarbDGN.png

Sent! http://i.imgur.com/sA7W2lS.png

*Funds are recieved* LOOOL http://i.imgur.com/e6vOoWd.png

http://i.imgur.com/4agdjcm.png Goons Scamming 101

http://i.imgur.com/y7hQrmZ.png APPLICATION ACCEPTED!

http://i.imgur.com/57vobu1.png Stalker!

http://i.imgur.com/klNuLEm.png Accepted and im basically "in the corp!" Woop woop!

http://i.imgur.com/fR4panN.png He doesn't know what he is saying....

http://i.imgur.com/ewxlQdu.png Goon Spelling

http://i.imgur.com/74EnHuX.png Some small talk, very helpful and precise information!

http://i.imgur.com/x3Myd9U.png Time to wait until I get a confirmation mail!

http://i.imgur.com/8LAajdd.png Enjoy....

----- One day Passes

http://i.imgur.com/WNgS309.png STATUS UPDATE

http://i.imgur.com/IVw9y4N.png GoonFleet hasn't sent me my mail yet!

Send him a mail http://i.imgur.com/dfeOw5f.png

CONTINUE IN COMMENT

Azis

Azis Troyanov
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#2 - 2014-08-09 01:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Azis Troyanov
http://i.imgur.com/VzIY6U9.png His reply

Couple more hours pass, let's send him another mail!
http://i.imgur.com/5S1eb8W.png

What's this! http://i.imgur.com/DgMQpX8.png Cannot send?!?!

But he's online! http://i.imgur.com/qJbFTxs.png

http://i.imgur.com/VekpVF9.png Conclusion snapshot.




Well, that it it people. The whole conversation between me and a scamming GoonSwarm Recruiter. His title was official, which shows how corrupt the Goon system is.
Here is a link to the whole album with all the snapshots so you may go over it yourself. These snapshots were all taken in real-time as I was being scammed, er... I mean, recruited!
http://imgur.com/a/5PT4A

Again, this is not a butthurt post and I don't expect my ISK back. However, I do expect CCP to look into the in-game legality of using 3rd party websites as scamming tools. I really have no problem with in-game scamming allowed by the mechanics, not that I support those play styles.

Well, there you have it. A live documenting of Goon Recruitment scam, brought to you by Azis Troyanov!
Back to Brave Newbies it seems! They've been nothing but nice to me so far.

Pls donate for my 200m lost. I cri everi tim.

Azis

Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2014-08-09 01:59:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Roll Thank you for confirming what is already common knowledge.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#4 - 2014-08-09 02:09:18 UTC
Unless he A) posted an advert in the Recruitment Channel or B) impersonated anyone, recruitment scamming is perfect legal and posting this absolutely irrelevant.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2014-08-09 02:11:35 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Unless he A) posted an advert in the Recruitment Channel or B) impersonated anyone, recruitment scamming is perfect legal and posting this absolutely irrelevant.



I agree!

I'm just posting my experience for others to see.


What do you think about using 3rd party websites though?

Azis

Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2014-08-09 02:12:20 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Roll Thank you for confirming what is already common knowledge.




xD no problem!

I thought it would be funny to do a LIVE screenshot take of the convo... A new twist?

Azis

GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-08-09 03:10:58 UTC
getting blacklisted from test is quite the accomplishment. well done.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#8 - 2014-08-09 03:38:48 UTC
Azis Troyanov wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Unless he A) posted an advert in the Recruitment Channel or B) impersonated anyone, recruitment scamming is perfect legal and posting this absolutely irrelevant.



I agree!

I'm just posting my experience for others to see.


What do you think about using 3rd party websites though?


No issue with 3rd party websites as far as I know concerning the EULA/TOS.

As far as posting your experience for others to see... none of this is news and this thread is going to be buried in a day.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-08-09 03:40:53 UTC
GOB the Magician wrote:
getting blacklisted from test is quite the accomplishment. well done.




I know! Thanks a bunch.

Speaking of Goons, I was convod by another guy who let me into a GSF recruitment channel. Once there I was told I was 'blued' for GoonSwarm and then told to create a contract with no collateral to move my ships to Deklein.

Or, if I chose a Carrier option, THEY would jump me into the system...


Sound like a trap much?

Azis

Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2014-08-09 03:41:40 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Azis Troyanov wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Unless he A) posted an advert in the Recruitment Channel or B) impersonated anyone, recruitment scamming is perfect legal and posting this absolutely irrelevant.



I agree!

I'm just posting my experience for others to see.


What do you think about using 3rd party websites though?


No issue with 3rd party websites as far as I know concerning the EULA/TOS.

As far as posting your experience for others to see... none of this is news and this thread is going to be buried in a day.



Yeah, your probably right about the EULA.
As far as my posting goes, I figure if it helps one person it is worth it.
No need to have a stick up your arse.

Azis

Saar Ynier
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-09 03:42:21 UTC
Maybe you're an alt of a goon and this is an elaborate scam, which your posting this in the hopes that a TESTie sees it and gets you in to their Alliance Shocked
Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2014-08-09 03:43:44 UTC
Saar Ynier wrote:
Maybe you're an alt of a goon and this is an elaborate scam, which your posting this in the hopes that a TESTie sees it and gets you in to their Alliance Shocked




!!!!!


Good thinking... Lol

Also, the government knew about 9/11


OopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOopsOops
EvilTwistedEvilTwistedEvilTwisted

lol

Azis

Saar Ynier
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-08-09 03:45:32 UTC
Thought you might like that one Big smile

Seriously though, if people don't google (goonswarm recruitment scam) what makes you think they will find this?
Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2014-08-09 03:55:03 UTC
Saar Ynier wrote:
Thought you might like that one Big smile

Seriously though, if people don't google (goonswarm recruitment scam) what makes you think they will find this?


I don't know... :/

I thought maybe if I write it out carefully with included screenshots it'll be more appealing than "I got scammed plz goons suk lel".

Azis

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#15 - 2014-08-09 04:47:39 UTC
Azis Troyanov wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Azis Troyanov wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Unless he A) posted an advert in the Recruitment Channel or B) impersonated anyone, recruitment scamming is perfect legal and posting this absolutely irrelevant.



I agree!

I'm just posting my experience for others to see.


What do you think about using 3rd party websites though?


No issue with 3rd party websites as far as I know concerning the EULA/TOS.

As far as posting your experience for others to see... none of this is news and this thread is going to be buried in a day.



Yeah, your probably right about the EULA.
As far as my posting goes, I figure if it helps one person it is worth it.
No need to have a stick up your arse.


We get a post like this just about every week, and know, it doesn't help anyone. The forums already know.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#16 - 2014-08-09 04:59:11 UTC
It even says on their wiki that they will scam you.

I fail to see what the point of this thread is. Raise awareness? It was obvious anyway. Get them banned? It's 100% legal.

So what's the point?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#17 - 2014-08-09 05:24:14 UTC
Question

What?

Ugh

Straight

Roll

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#18 - 2014-08-09 06:20:00 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Azis Troyanov wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Azis Troyanov wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Unless he A) posted an advert in the Recruitment Channel or B) impersonated anyone, recruitment scamming is perfect legal and posting this absolutely irrelevant.



I agree!

I'm just posting my experience for others to see.


What do you think about using 3rd party websites though?


No issue with 3rd party websites as far as I know concerning the EULA/TOS.

As far as posting your experience for others to see... none of this is news and this thread is going to be buried in a day.



Yeah, your probably right about the EULA.
As far as my posting goes, I figure if it helps one person it is worth it.
No need to have a stick up your arse.


We get a post like this just about every week, and know, it doesn't help anyone. The forums already know.



You are indeed right. But I thought I could perhaps give it a new twist by providing ingame snapshots of convos.
I just hope it helps people. If it does then it is worth it.

Azis

Azis Troyanov
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Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2014-08-09 06:21:05 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It even says on their wiki that they will scam you.

I fail to see what the point of this thread is. Raise awareness? It was obvious anyway. Get them banned? It's 100% legal.

So what's the point?



Just to raise awareness and provide in-game snapshots of how the scam works. Something that most of these posts don't provide.

Not planning on getting anyone banned or even yelled at lol.

Azis

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#20 - 2014-08-09 06:23:35 UTC
Azis Troyanov wrote:

Not planning on getting anyone banned or even yelled at lol.


And yet, the thread title says "DEVs WELCOME".

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

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