Intergalactic Summit

O Faithful!

While the the schismatic nature of the current state of the Amarr Empire is evident, an important question remains: What if there was no emperor? Can Amarrians be faithful and not obey the commands of their emperor?

It is known that the treacherous Theology Council has corrupted and falsified the Scriptures, supplanting eternal truths with temporal ambitions. In the Code of Demeanor, which talks about the nature of God and society, we read today: The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited. Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin. Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder. Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life. The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual. In the original writing, that we find preserved in the monasteries of the Order of St. Tetrimon, we read however: The Mercy of our God is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual. The truth cannot be hidden.

While it cannot be denied that the moral reforms did supplant the Lord’s name and placed the emperor’s in his stead, altering and perverting the divine order of things, the truthful scriptures, our tradition and our history, leave not a shred of a doubt that faithful cannot engage in the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice without the emperor leading the empire, which in theory and practice has always been and will always be the embodiment of all what is good and just: The great Amarr Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. To do so the enemies of the outside had to be defeated and the enemies of the inside controlled. The Lord gave our Emperor the power to harness the Good and punish the Evil. The second letter of St. Junip of Aerui speaks: We can not fail, for we have the Emperor to lead us and destiny to follow. And the Book of the Reclaiming stated that: As Garrulor rules the skies; as Frisceas rules the sea; As Emperor rules Holder; as Holder rules Serf; Yet all under Heaven serve Me; So shall Amarr rule the worlds of the Heavens.

But is is also impossible that a heretic be the emperor: When Heideran V assumed power, he was legitimately and rightfully elected by the Council of Apostles. His heresy, the so called “moral reforms”, not only lead to civil war, but resulted in the destruction of the sacred order. While the empire lapsed into chaos, Heideran V ceased to be a legitimate emperor and became a false one. However he was not an usurper, he was rightfully elected. How is that possible? Like all the false emperors that followed Heideran V a simple principle applies: Their succession is merely material, that is, they occupy the place, but have no jurisdiction to rule the faithful. They cannot have jurisdiction, since it must derive from the sacred order of things, which they reject. I contrast this material succession with formal succession, which is to occupy the position of authority and to have jurisdiction at the same time. This might sound tricky, but it isn’t: A murderer is still a murderer even if he is not found guilty. And an innocent person is not guilty although he might be considered guilty before the law.

How are the faithful to deal with this circumstance? We do not owe obedience to the false empress. Although she is the material successor of the emperors of our great past, she holds no jurisdiction. To her we owe only recognition; to him who is truly a ruler, we owe obedience. If she were to confess her sins and reinstate the divine order of things, we were to owe her obedience too. But obedience to schismatics constitutes schism itself.

Yet all under Heaven serve the Lord. All Amarr, even those holding the schismatic judgement that the false empress is fully legitimate, share a small portion of the eternal truths of faith. While they serve the schismatic, they also serve the Lord. When I was waring against schismatics in the past I did so in good faith. Today I know my efforts were justified and pleased the Lord. But henceforth I will embrace them as what they are, brothers and sisters in the Lord, impaired and schismatic, but brothers and sisters. Together we can overcome the schism which a hurts the souls of every true Amarrian. For it is justified and pleases the Lord. Amen.

With regards from liberated Jayai
Odelya d’Hanguest

You wasted a lot of words there saying a lot of stuff but, not saying just what it is that you want done about this supposed circumstance. What do you want d'Hanguest? I get that you don't want Sarum sitting on the throne but, not the reasoning for it. What's all this "restoring of the rightful order" business?

The Four Symbols have passed. You're living in an outdated mindset, sweetie.

The closing years of the Fifth Symbol are rapidly approaching, and the age of the Sixth is almost upon us.

The Beginning is Nigh.

And this is why prophecies don't interest me. Either they're wholesale garbage that was deliberately phrased so vaguely that they could mean anything and will be deemed accurate after some event has happened that can be shoehorned into apparently matching them, or else they're genuine predictions but phrased so vaguely as to render them useless as a tool of foresight.

Personally, I suspect it's the former.

Samira, you are not only overstepping your station, you are grossly impertinent. While the capsule has not liberated your mind, it surely has inflated your ego, little dove. When your dirty, unimportant ancestors were praying to the antic idols of some preposterous tribal pantheons, dancing around the fires of ignorance and violence, my family served the empire and exalted His name. Centuries are not enough to redeem generations of spiritual vulgarity and dirt. I will forgive you this time. But: If you ever dare to speak about my house again, I shall see to the punishment of you and your kin.


Do you believe this obscurantist propaganda you are writing yourself? If the Order of St. Tetrimon opposed technology how then does it possess the most advanced spacefaring technologies?


Are the Sani Sabik the will of the God because they are? The defeat at Vak’Atioth? The Minmatar-Rebellion? You do not believe what you write. You only want to bedazzle and blind. Fatalism is un-Amarrian. It is the tribal way of thinking.


The laws of God and man are separate from each other and yet they are intertwined, as the symbols of faith teach us. While it is important to discuss the order of precedence, here the nature of God’s laws and His plan for His empire is in question. You declare the laws of God and His designs to be changeable through the emperor and Theology council. I ask you: Is that with or without boundaries? Can the emperor become a Sani Sanik, too? Is the emperor omniscient? Does he, who is, according to the schismatic dogmas, the Voice of God, knows the Divine purpose He has given us? Does the purpose change then or just the means of achieving it? Your concept about the emperor is nothing but tyrannical, oppressive and obscurantist, repeated over and over again by the Theology Council, the Privy Council, the heirs, the whole system that in reality runs the Empire. To deny the notion that the false empress is The Voice of God, or any emperors before her, is not an act of treason, but of reason backed by history and tradition.

I ask you to mediate on the following: As Garrulor rules the skies; as Frisceas rules the sea; As Emperor rules Holder; as Holder rules Serf; Yet all under Heaven serve Me; So shall Amarr rule the worlds of the Heavens. Think this analogy backwards. How is the serf ruled by a just holder? What does it tell you about the emperor then?

You were born in a system of systematic obscurantism. I pray that the Lord will forgive you and lead you to the right path. That He may see your zealous heart that yearns so much to serve Him, but cannot. And until you will see the light I will treat you as my little impaired sister.

With regards from Zirsem
Odelya d’Hanguest

There is a greater schism that must be healed — the schism between the Amarr Empire and the Blood Raider Covenant.

The Empire must must come to understand that its own religion demands human sacrifice. The Covenant must give up its Pleasure Hubs. Both must learn that God has given the Minmatar over to destruction.

All New Eden shall crumble before the might of the Reunited Amarr-Blood Raider Empire-Covenant. Amen. Amarr Victor.

The Mad Emperor was self-proclaimed, no more an emperor of Amarr than the slave butcher from Danera V is a prophet. The Mad Emperor's heretical example is continually and falsely used by foreigners as an argument of the capacity for an emperor of Amarr to turn to sin and evil, without any acknowledgment for the actual history. He was never the legitimate emperor, the Book of Records clearly shows that Amarr was ruled by a proper emperor during the heretic's time*. Foreigners make the Mad Emperor out to be more important than he actually was; he was only ever a heretic who sought to turn Amarr away from God to the worship of himself. It is disingenious to use him as an argument against the purity of the Holy Imperial Throne.



* ((Sourcing OOCly here since it's a somewhat obscure reference (one line at the end of one article). The Book of Records wiki page says that in the process of covering up and purging the Mad Emperor from history, the years of his reign were attributed to another emperor (whose name is sadly not provided). Obscurantism indeed!))

There seems to be a remarkable amount of contention about what is and isn't actually Holy Scripture. Thought the divine inspiration for theses scribbles were meant to be somewhat infallible. Should be kind of hard to muck that kind of thing up to this degree.

Damn, I've got to say the Amarr are still great at sounding so smart even when they're splitting hairs over their own government and theology.

Nauplius, That particular schism can only be healed by the complete destruction or the utter, complete, and abject repentance and submission of the Blood Raider Covenant to the Empress and the Empire; preferably the former.

I can only hope that your recent podding might be a suggestion to you that God does not view your path as Blessed and a re-evaluation is in order as to your 'private revelations' unapproved by the Theology Council.

As a minister once wrote, "some people actually imagine that the revelation in God’s Word is not enough to meet our needs. They think that God from time to time carries on an actual conversation with them, chatting with them, satisfying their doubts....As a result, their emotions soar; they are full of bubbling joy that is mixed with self-confidence and a high opinion of themselves. The foundation for these feelings, however, does not lie within the Scripture itself. "but instead rests on the sudden creations of their imaginations. These people are clearly deluded. "

I urge you to reconsider your path.

Duchess D'Hanguest, such a mixture of contradictions. I confess to being perplexed....