EVE General Discussion

"Will make things harder for people, and reduce power projection." - CCP

From the recent WH dev-blog

"Now with the benefits of hindsight this prediction appears amusingly naive. Ingenious players have quite easily overcome any and all challenges and created an entire society within this uniquely hostile environment." - CCP

Sound familiar?

The context is identical.

Predictions which are unfounded and completely unable to accurately predict the player-base's amazing ability to surprise and adapt.

Not particularly.

One talks about inconveniences making something impossible, the other talks about increasing inconvenience.

Diiiinsdaaale!

except the primary aim of increasing jump fuel requirements was to increase the market for ice products.

I would like things to be reverted. but honestly I wonder if its not time to let carriers and dreads use gates but give them like 1au sec warp

A PP nerf was listed as one of the reasons for the change.

Of course that was roundly mocked and rightly so because it was an idiotic justification for a perfectly sensible economic balancing change, but there we are: facts are facts.

I honestly don't understand why CCP decided to subsidize ice mining at that point. If prices go down, fewer people mine ice, demand outpaces supply, prices go back up. Ice mining, as a profession, can't die in eve. Too many people use the topes, it might have dipped a bit on the change had ccp not intervened, but the market would have stabilized at a fair price where enough ice miners consider it worth their time to mine topes to meet existing demand.

I'm not normally a "the market solves everything" guy, but in this case I think that CCP should have let the market sort itself out.

I don't think the justification for the change (stimulating the ice market) holds particularly well, given what PotatoOverdose said and given the fact that while research poses are no longer necessary (iirc that being what prompted the change), there are now more reasons to have a POS in highsec than before, as well as more places to put one. It seems to me that the ice market would have done just fine without the change. And as a nerf to power projection, well... we can see that hardly had any effect on groups like us.

It is aimed for further redistribution of wealth from big alliances to small time ice miners.

So far the only effect seems to be slightly more moaning in comms over "waste of topes" when we get blueballs after blowing few billion ISK in isotopes while Slowcat-jumping to a target over a couple of midpoints.