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Getting Free Gank Kills Courtesy The CODE. Alliance
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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#181 - 2014-08-05 17:28:53 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
You really wouldn't want the ties between characters and accounts to be made public. That would be very bad for a lot of people. Code least of all.

It would only be bad for those who have conspired against others behind their masks and good for the rest of us as the veil of their lies and illusions would be lifted from our eyes.


Guys like us would have the opportunity to harass you on all of your characters relentlessly, you would not be able to hide, you would not be able to run. And we would laugh at you and show you on the forum where you asked CCP for it. You would not want that to happen, trust me. The consequences would be worse for you than for us. Honestly, if you ask nicely I'll even tell you straight up who the other character on my account is. But you'll have to ask really nice.

DrysonBennington wrote:
Sorry the only one who is delusional is CODE and the followers of James 315......


I don't think 'one' means what you think it means.

DrysonBennington wrote:
Then they saw before them the White Knights of New Eden. Their steel horses rising from the darkest of depths from with the Universe, the soul of each ship imbued with Faith and Justice that is with faith and justice that they make their fight. Their eyes are like flames and their hand as heavy iron unto the wicked and heathen that would call theirselves saviors yet bring destruction to others in the name of their planet bound evil that hath awakened from some desolate and stagnant hole in the Universe that no one loved.


Dryson buddy, are you loosing your grip on sanity? Pull it back a notch bro.

DrysonBennington wrote:
....Another tactic to use against CODE is to bump their bump ships out of alignment so that they are not able to bump their target.

This can be achieved by fitting a cruiser or battlecruiser with 1600 mm plates, T2 Overdrives , a T2 MWD along with velocity and plate rigs.


HAHAHAHAHAHA! This would be.... actually pretty annoying. Good plan Dryson, that one could actually work.

DrysonBennington wrote:
You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.


....aaaand you lost it. This one would not work nearly as well as you seem to think it would.


Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#182 - 2014-08-05 17:58:46 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.


....aaaand you lost it. This one would not work nearly as well as you seem to think it would.




It might bump the ship out of target range for some of the ships. Might. The bumping ship would have to be really on it and already bumping when the gank team lands on grid.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#183 - 2014-08-05 18:02:06 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.


....aaaand you lost it. This one would not work nearly as well as you seem to think it would.




It might bump the ship out of target range for some of the ships. Might. The bumping ship would have to be really on it and already bumping when the gank team lands on grid.


And would need sufficient tank to be that close to the gankers.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#184 - 2014-08-05 18:07:03 UTC
The best advice Dryson could be giving is:

- Watch d-scan.
- Be aware of who is in system.
- Orbit the asteroid, don't sit still.
- Align to celestials and be prepared to warp out.
- Use a scout.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#185 - 2014-08-05 18:20:42 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
The best advice Dryson could be giving is:

- Watch d-scan.
- Be aware of who is in system.
- Orbit the asteroid, don't sit still.
- Align to celestials and be prepared to warp out.
- Use a scout.
- Don't fly Jump Freighters through hisec Stargates.
- Don't Autopilot.
- Don't fit/haul more modules/cargo than your hull justifies.
- Use web support if you're in a freighter.

Adding tips for hauler pilots.

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#186 - 2014-08-08 18:56:45 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
CODE ganks Orcas? Please tell me you are getting decent loot from those Orca ganks. Otherwise, you're losing the isk war.

I can see suicide ganking in a cheap Cat, but Orca gank requires some pricey ships.


Super late to reply to this one, but why not?

Nope you can gank an orca and win the isk war easily,

Gank catty - 10-12m or less
Orca - 700m+

that means we would have to sacrifice between 60 and 70 cattys to lose the ISK war, even with a DCII and RF Bulkheads it doesnt take that many. Not even close

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#187 - 2014-08-08 23:04:46 UTC
For those miner, freighter and Orca's pilots reading this thread the High Protectorate encourages you to take alternate routes away from Uedama and Aufay in order to keep from being ganked by CODE.

Your jumps and delivery times will be lengthened considerably which will cause the price of your services to increase you can be assured that your deliveries will arrive safely.

The cost offset for taking alternate routes is directly aligned with CODE's actions and any actions that are taken against them will help reduce their numbers and return the shipping lanes and expenses incurred to a normal rate.

It's better to pay a little more than have to lose the entire shipment.

You can blame CODE for the inflation.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#188 - 2014-08-09 04:36:30 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
For those miner, freighter and Orca's pilots reading this thread the High Protectorate encourages you to take alternate routes away from Uedama and Aufay in order to keep from being ganked by CODE.

Your jumps and delivery times will be lengthened considerably which will cause the price of your services to increase you can be assured that your deliveries will arrive safely.

The cost offset for taking alternate routes is directly aligned with CODE's actions and any actions that are taken against them will help reduce their numbers and return the shipping lanes and expenses incurred to a normal rate.

It's better to pay a little more than have to lose the entire shipment.

You can blame CODE for the inflation.


Heh. Yup. Though honestly, I haven't noticed too much in the way of inflation. The market changes have more to do with the latest patch.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#189 - 2014-08-10 00:50:39 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
Nertle P

http://gankerbumping.blogspot.com/

At least I still have chicken.
Revan7719
Perkone
Caldari State
#190 - 2014-08-10 05:03:29 UTC
hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#191 - 2014-08-10 06:58:21 UTC
Revan7719 wrote:
hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me.

I used to think like you, then I saw the light and realized, holy crap! It's just a game! Honor is for those who wish to die in battle, dishonor is for those who wish to live to see another battle. Seeing as we die in neary every battle we fight...

End of the day, don't knock it till you try it. Hop in a catalyst, find a retriever, and shoot him. You'll have your eyes openend to a whole new side of the game.

And remember, it's a game, it's meant to be fun.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Azov Rassau
Iron Destiny
#192 - 2014-08-10 07:01:00 UTC
Revan7719 wrote:
The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it.

If he 'worked' so much for that pricy & capable ship, he also has to take responsibility for the ship's safety, just like real captains do. In EvE it's mostly about Not going AFK at the Ice Belt, checking Directional Scan, Keeping an eye in Local and Overview, and Fitting a tanky Orca.
Some call it 'paranoia', but I call it staying alert and actually playing the game with the already-provided tools and mechanics. It's really easy to avoid being ganked.

Space is dark and harsh and you're never 100% safe, even in "high sec".

Btw welcome to EvE.

Be the change you want to see in Highsec.

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#193 - 2014-08-10 22:28:10 UTC
Probing for CODE. Pilot locations and areas of operations.

After looking at the Star Map there is a pattern of CODE.'s activities.

You will most likely find CODE operating close to Null Space access points, 15 to 20 jumps where there is heavy traffic, more than 200 jumps every hour where the system being ganked in is a choke point.

CODE. is most likely operating as a Guerilla Warfare unit for the CFC Alliance which is directly related to Goon's.

CODE's operations involve ganking orca's is part of an act of attrition by GS to keep their rivals at bay. If you are not part of GS you can be assured that your name has been added to a list to be ganked or to be made to purchase a permit to help fund GS's operation.

The Lottery Spammer's are also most likely working for Goon Swarm as well trying to lure pilots into giving them ISK with the false sense of receiving a larger amount in return so the Goon Swarm can account for a pilot's ISK who are in either an NPC Corp or small Corp.





DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#194 - 2014-08-10 22:32:11 UTC
I used to think like you, then I saw the light and realized, holy crap! It's just a game! Honor is for those who wish to die in battle, dishonor is for those who wish to live to see another battle.

That is the biggest wheel barrel of CODE Crap I have seen dumped here in awhile....

Honor is for those who fight and may die in battle. Honor is for those who wish to see the next battle and kill their enemy. Honor is for those that see the enemy after the battle has long ended as being worthy of friendship just as they were worthy to fight and find their way safely back home.

Dishonor is for those who kill the innocent because the innocent cannot fight back or won't.----CODE.
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#195 - 2014-08-10 22:33:46 UTC
Revan7719 wrote:
hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me.



A very honorable pilot indeed....you should find us sometime.

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#196 - 2014-08-10 22:54:47 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Probing for CODE. Pilot locations and areas of operations.

After looking at the Star Map there is a pattern of CODE.'s activities.

You will most likely find CODE operating close to Null Space access points, 15 to 20 jumps where there is heavy traffic, more than 200 jumps every hour where the system being ganked in is a choke point.

CODE. is most likely operating as a Guerilla Warfare unit for the CFC Alliance which is directly related to Goon's.

CODE's operations involve ganking orca's is part of an act of attrition by GS to keep their rivals at bay. If you are not part of GS you can be assured that your name has been added to a list to be ganked or to be made to purchase a permit to help fund GS's operation.

The Lottery Spammer's are also most likely working for Goon Swarm as well trying to lure pilots into giving them ISK with the false sense of receiving a larger amount in return so the Goon Swarm can account for a pilot's ISK who are in either an NPC Corp or small Corp.

Lottery scammers, and isk doublers are in it for themselves, they do work for anyone. Even scammers who are part if Goonswarm are likely keeping the isk for themselves, not donating it to the Alliance.
In addition to that as an Agent of the New Order, I do not exclude Goons from the Code, everyone must follow the Code, Goons included.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#197 - 2014-08-10 22:58:59 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Honor is for those that see the enemy after the battle has long ended as being worthy of friendship just as they were worthy to fight and find their way safely back home.

We have no problem being friends with our enemies, you'd see how friendly we are if you were not so blinded by hate.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#198 - 2014-08-10 23:39:10 UTC
Revan7719 wrote:
hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me.


On very rare occasions the observations of a new player are pretty accurate.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#199 - 2014-08-11 13:59:23 UTC
My belief is that CODE/Minerbumping is an elaborate market scam in which gankers are used to kill off industrial ships in order to create higher demand for minerals and ships. In essence a market price control scheme, feeding off the desires of hisec gankers.

Do I have proof of this? No. This is just a theory of mine. However, considering the amount of donations given to James315, the fact that costs for gank ships are kept cheap, prices for industrial ships have steadily climbed since CODE/Minerbumping was started, and that everything in this game relies on ISK; all of this leads me to look at who is getting rich off these actions.

Is the theory testable? Sure. Buy a mining barge/exhumer BPO. Mine up enough materials to be able to make your own, build a few, keep stockpile of mats on hand for future use, and basically save yourself from paying market price. If enough people were to start doing this, then you would deny some profits to the people getting rich off of your ship deaths and most likely see a drop in ma

Again, just a theory. Your tinfoil hattery mileage may vary.

Also, I don't care if anyone is getting rich off this or that hapless idiots are getting blown up. However, players should learn to look at the long game and figure out how to reduce the cost of their loses.
Xifix Rova
Doomheim
#200 - 2014-08-11 17:22:28 UTC
Good grief I can't tell who is trolling who.

I hope Dryson is actually trolling or else he is taking this WAAAAY too seriously, but then the
psuedo-religious rants are way-creepy role-playing gone wrong.

You were given an open universe to do whatever you wish and the best you come up
with is an extortion scheme.

And for the people that say "it's a game about blowing up space ships" that is only a part of the game.
CCP gave us many more tools than just guns.

Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up.

Also please point to the spot on this Catalyst doll to show us where the bad AFK Venture touched you.