Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Time to correct the first part and throw my support behind this.

Silly me

I'm talking about faction ammo that can be obtained by LP stores.

Those crystals are more valuable on market than imperial variants.

The various meta levels have been goofy forever. Some rarer/more expensive stuff is weaker than the commonly available tech 2 across the board for tons of items.

I often wonder if we are not still working with placeholder values on a lot of stuff. Its clear that the original concept of the game had a much richer and involved PvE element, and most of it was back burnered or outright abandoned in favor of the pure pvp griefer playstyle.

Invitation to derail thread?

Thats why i suggest to make them different not worst.

Accidental, or misinformed/making assumptions.

Logically, the faction varients would have some feature that sets them apart or above, or why would that faction continue to produce them? If its just a paint job on the round and a logo on the crate, why the fuss?

Ideally, I would remove current faction variants (mostly to save the names for something more unique later on), and rename them more along the line of:

Military Grade [ammo type]
Mil-Spec Improved Yield [ammo type]
Mil-Spec Overcharged [ammo type]
Mil-spec Range Enhanced [ammo type]
Etc...

Later, if it seems needed, Caldari ammo could be introduced with exceptional range (boring but fitting with the race) or with advanced shield negating warheads that not only do damage but also reduce the targets maximum shield HP for a time which would be more effective against shield logistics and local repair than other races, at no doubt astronomical cost- a field in which the Caldari excel- just as a spitball off the top of my head for instance.

Other ammo could be designed with extreme burst performance in mind-- either granting a huge rate of fire bonus while imparting heat damage, or else adding a small thermal damage compinent to its profile and each shot reducing or repairing an amount of heat damage.

Consider smart munitions-- rounds designed to damage specific systems, perhaps even those not normally vunerable-- they might reduce sensor strength, increase align times, change cycle times on certain modules, and all manner of other unfortunate things that might befall a ship but currently does not.

I like this idea of giving each faction ammo type a defined role rather than just the attributes they have now and that the OP has quoted. +1

much needed changes too ammo is hopefully on its way with module tiercide .. which is well overdue

Faction modules have smaller fitting requirements than T2 versions or are better than T2.
Ammo on the other hand it is just worst , when it could be different.

This will not be worst to any one.
For example instead of 1 set of crystals , people will be carrying 3.