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It has been noted, on the teams backlog for a subsequent release.

Thanks for the reply

If the blog is out of date, can we get an update on how the cost scaling actually works?

This is most likely tied to the "option to pick reprocessing output" that was stated in the Blog, but did not make it into release.

Do something about that god damn popup underneath the #runs textbox. For the love of all that is holy, move that thing, it is horrendous and constantly blocks relevant information.

I just want to point out that this is contradictory to 2 blogs.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-price-of-change/ (April 29, 2014)

"System facilities: stations in a given system make a job cheaper. We want to ensure that the landscape is lumpy rather than flat, and it makes sense that systems with more stations (and more factory or research stations in particular) are better places to do specialized work. Every station in a system has two facility multipliers -- one for manufacturing and one for research -- and the system's various multipliers are all multiplied together and then multiplied with the price. (We do a lot of multiplication with pricing, and we therefore wield large calculators)

For NPC stations, these multipliers range between 0.95 and 0.98, based on how well the station's activity (factory, testing facility, warehouse etc) is judged to be suited to building and/or researching things. Stations can have different ratings for manufacturing and research. These are not huge numbers, but because they multiply together they can have a big effect. In manufacturing, the current record-holder in empire space is Nonni, with a multiplier of around 0.48 - building things in Nonni will, all other things being equal, halve the cost of installing a job.

For conquerables and outposts, we wanted to keep things pretty competitive despite being limited to one per system, so their multipliers range between 0.5 (manufacturing in an Amarr outpost or researching in a Caldari one) and 0.8 (all jobs in a Refining conquerable).

A couple of things should be noted here. First, these bonuses apply system-wide, including to jobs installed in starbases. Second, keep in mind that this is still a smallish percentage of the total build cost -- it's not a 50% reduction in build cost, it's a 50% reduction in job installation costs which are typically (well) below 10% of build cost."

And later
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-industry-all-you-want-to-know/ (July 17, 2014 5 days before Crius)

"1. A reduction in price based on the stations and upgrades present in a system. Stations, Factional Warfare upgrades and certain outpost upgrades provide beneficial multipliers to costs. For any applicable job in a given system, the multipliers for all the stations and upgrades in that system are multiplied together with the base price. See Appendix 2 for a full list."



You guys posted this information 5 days before Crius was released. Taking this feature out would remove a reason for players to choose to build in some systems rather than others. Facility bonuses helped differentiate systems from each other.

Yes, input material tetris means supply chain management is a useless skill

As far as CAA's, rather than that, anchor a Large Ship Assembly Array as that has 18 mil m3 of storage and just play tetris from one spot. Now supply chain management should allow you to move stuff remotely, that is supply chain there.....

Been over a week, wrote you an evemail immediately and a followup email yesterday, still nada

Then using more just blows a hole in the supply chain management skills cause someone has to be there to do tetris

Can't have cake and eat it too

The reduction in the number of arrays is entirely theoretical for any serious industrialist. You fill the array instantly, even on a weekly build cycle. You still have to calculate exactly which materials to put in each array for specific components because of the severely limited capacity and often they don't fit anyway.

As others have apparently dubbed it - this "material-tetris" is neither useful or entertaining gameplay, and does indeed negate your ability to remotely start jobs (a major benefit of the expansion - if only it were usable by those that produce in a pos at scale).

Hopefully we can get a serious response on this issue.