Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I like it, but it shouldn't be allowed in high-sec, or else we'll have a new branch of CODE out there ganking high-sec POS's

desis do have a big cargo for their size

Posting to +1 the idea in general.

Additionally, I agree on having two different sizes, but I personally think the smaller should be a T2 Destroyer, and the larger a T2 Battlecruiser.

My reasoning is simple.
For the Smaller of the role:
- I view the smaller of these as a role that should be quick, but not among the fastest of ships.
- The cargo hold size of a destroyer is more fitting for the intended use.
- Currently 28 T2 Frigates vs 4 T2 Destroyers >_> ahem...

For the larger of the role,
- if it is to be used to carry large structure components and online them faster it should be fairly large as well.
- If it is to be used in taking down an active POS then it needs to be able to stand up to a little punishment.
- There is only one role for T2 BCs and only a total of 8 T2 BCs
- If the small type is going to be a standard ship type (i.e. not an industrial ship of any kind) then the larger needs to be the same, since it doesn't make sense to have one be an industrial and the other not since you wouldnt have a good progression chain within the ship role.

Great idea, why not have it be a T2 version of the tier 2 destroyers?

Really Liking these ideas so far. But no one has mentioned the Mobile Micro Jump Drive yet. Dropping its activation time from 60sec to 10 or 12 would make aiming this aggressively a possibility. Also as an emergency jump out while the engineer drops mines and bubbles along the escape path. Could help this module to get some more use.

Liking the destroyer sizing a lot. They would also be very useful in setting up a known fight grid on your favour, placing jump units, cyno jammers, bubbles and mines. Also scan inhibitor to stop the Dscanning from ruining your plans (until a scout comes in and blows it all anyway).

I could see these working well with interdictiors during combat, dictors making close runs while the engineers make lines of retreat unattractive.

Looking forward to seeing where this discussion leads. Well done OP and posters for a decent and civil thread for once

There's two different things under discussion here so I think I will officially separate them.

T2 "Wrecker" destroyer
Similar to regular destroyers in mid and low slots and stats but has the demolition charge for high slots as discussed by the op. This will be similar to citadel torpedoes with the following differences:

missile velocity: 80 m/s
flight time: 20 s
explosion velocity: 2 m/s

This means maximum range of about 3.5 km after skill bonuses and only useful on immobile targets. It also takes a significant time to hit the target even at that close range.
Total dps of the ship is approximately 2500. It should be considerably stronger than sub caps for killing structures but may not approach the strength of a dread.

This might even use citadel torpedoes with the appropriate bonuses to make these numbers for simplicity.


T2 "Constructor" battlecruiser
This ship will have a number of unique properties:

Extremely short range on all effects.
Module that quadruples the anchoring/unanchoring speed of the target.
Module that assumes control of heavily damaged or offline structures. Offline high sec posses hit by this will have a one day timer after completion of the cycle before they switch.
Near zero range but significantly more powerful remote repair.
Special bay for deployables.

The next idea is not yet approved by the general consensus that seems to be reached by this thread and may be part of the constructor or a different ship.

Turret deployment:
These turrets are not controlled and will simply act based on the owner's fleet settings. That means not purple shoot it or purple rep it.
1 minute anchoring after constructor module is considered.
Active for 15 minutes. May be recharged by constructor module (takes 1 minute).
10km min distance to other turrets.
Turrets only function if the owner is within 50km.
Different types of turrets for damage, mining, ewar, and logi.

This means that a constructor continuously cycling their turrets can have 14 active at any given time.
The exact stats of the turrets is up for debate but as of right now I think roughly:
100 dps damage or rep amount (note that repping is not controlled)
range and tracking to be determined
25k hp no resists
I have no idea what amount is appropriate for mining or ewar turrets

Those stats mean that when fully prepared it is considerably more powerful then most sub caps however it takes the full 15 minutes to prepare it and must be continuously cycling them. If attacked before then it is useless.

For the turrets, you could make them sort of a super sentry drone or so sort of thing
that would likely simplify the coding

Can't add anything but a +1 from me.

No.

I've updated the OP with a few changes that seem to have been informally agreed upon. As I see/notice others I'll add them so that people don't have to read through six pages to be up to speed.