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Thanks, CCP, for buffing outlaw mechanics in HS a bit ! <3 <3

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#1 - 2014-08-07 11:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
Took me a while to be sure,
didn't pay too much attention at first.

First I noticed a big change compared to 2012 ...
... but at some point I digged deeper into it and noticed another.

The second moment I realised that something changed was,
when I reached the tripple-volley thrasher so easily.

The first one was when suddenly the faction police didn't despawn regularly.


Back in 2012 I had to fit an armorplate and had to have AWU high up ...
... to have enough tank to reach the third volley ...
... pushing damage beyond an alpha fitted t2 280mm Artillery Thrasher.

But this year it's easily doable just using shield-tank alone.

So I checked and I know someone who has the updated sentry damage profile on her bio.

To compare....

The EVELOPEDIA Sentry gun entry.

Specifically this ...
Quote:
Each sentry gun fires every 1.75 seconds and deals 56 EM, 56 Explosive, 98 Kinetic, and 98 Thermal damage per hit.[2][3] Ignoring resists, this equates to 308 volley damage and 176 DPS per sentry gun. Additionally, sentry guns are unaffected by transversal and sig radius and are therefore particularly deadly to frigates.


Compared to here ...
... https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/M-L-E ...
... and this:
Quote:
Sentry guns deal 176dps per gun, 80em-80ex-140ki-140th damage every 2.5 seconds;


Comparing this to damage intake back then ...
... and double checking the combat log of today's ganks ...
... there's more time between sentry turret volleys ...
... which means it's easier to get off more volleys before the tripple-volley thrasher pops. (:

But there's more to come!


(undramatic pause)


(space intentionally left blank)


The faction police despawns much less often!

For those who don't know what that means:

It means that when I bounce around on grid ...
... and reach a few hundred kilometer distance ...
... they start slowboating towards me!

It happens every few bounces now,
instead of maybe every ten or twenty, if even!

There were hours with it not happening even once!


Anyhow ....


The police frigate reaches 2.5kmsec max.

Too slow to catch a properly fitted atron, slasher or vigil, btw ... ;)


And this actually makes it more interesting.

First I thoughtIt's too easy-mode to have them not despawn that often ...
... but sometimes getting used to it ends with them suddenly respawning next to you ...
... killing you .... snickers xD

Edit: "See followup post as reply to Sibyyl that this is rare and only
happens when one stops paying attention. Don't do it stoned, kids!"


... oh and I shouldn't forget to mention ...


... they have gridwide ECM! :O


This seems a bit much, would rather have it reduced to maxed out realistic in game values, (fleetboosters etc)
simply because the faction police isn't an CONCORD NPC.


Thank you for your attention!

I sit down, cross my legs ... and light up a superlong EVE120. :)


.................................. poof ................................

Nipped some excessive line breaks - ISD Atomic Dove

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#2 - 2014-08-07 11:19:02 UTC
PS: Who beats me to the quadruple-volley thrasher? (:
But it has to be cheap! (:

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

Robert Warner
Back Door Burglars
#3 - 2014-08-07 11:23:30 UTC
I see you baby, trollin' that forum!

Also your

paragraphing

is really

bad.

Did it

really need

to


take up

this much space?
5yndr0m3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-08-07 11:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Christina Project wrote:
PS: Who beats me to the quadruple-volley thrasher? (:
But it has to be cheap! (:


i


didnt read your


first post because of the

formatting.

tia.

Snip, cleaned that formatting - ISD Atomic Dove
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2014-08-07 11:28:05 UTC
Came...

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

TharOkha
0asis Group
#6 - 2014-08-07 11:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
well
and thats all dudes
Cleaned up that broken enter key for you ;) - ISD Atomic Dove
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-08-07 11:38:38 UTC
Seems everyone had the same idea I had about replies...

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-08-07 11:40:36 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
eh.
nah, too much space.

Snip Snip Snip - ISD Atomic Dove

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#9 - 2014-08-07 11:44:44 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
eh.

...

nah, too much space.
Best mocking post so far. :)

Waiting for the ISD to clean up the mess.

No idea if he disapproves of my layout too,
but all my OPs are written like this ... so..... :p

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

ISD Atomic Dove
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#10 - 2014-08-07 12:01:53 UTC
Seems we have a bad case of broken enter keys What?

But I've taken the liberty of fixing it for you, Please be sure to remain on topic and not killing the forum layout.


Quote:

29. Posts that distort the forum layout are prohibited.

Posts that are deliberately designed to distort the layout of the EVE Online forums, or character names that are of an inappropriate length and stretch the forums will be removed. This kind of behavior is deemed as being in opposition to the community spirit that CCP would like to promote, and posts of this nature will be deleted. Users who engage in this type of behavior may face temporary suspension or permanent revocation of their forum posting privileges.

ISD Atomic Dove

Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-08-07 15:25:46 UTC
What you've said makes sense. At the 1.75 second mark, the old sentry guns would have dealt 616 damage, but the new ones would have only dealt 440 damage (assuming everything connects). Not sure what the volley frequency for a Thrasher is, but looks like you're falling inside the volley frequency of the sentry guns more comfortably now that it's 2.5 secs.



Christina Project wrote:
First I thought it's too easy-mode to have them not despawn that often ...

Why would this make things easier? Is it because respawning has the small chance that they respawn within shooting range?



Quote:
they have gridwide ECM! :O

Doesn't this nerf outlaw mechanics in hisec a little?

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#12 - 2014-08-07 15:36:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
Sibyyl wrote:
Christina Project wrote:
First I thought it's too easy-mode to have them not despawn that often ...

Why would this make things easier? Is it because respawning has the small chance that they respawn within shooting range?



Quote:
they have gridwide ECM! :O

Doesn't this nerf outlaw mechanics in hisec a little?

Well them not despawning that often really does make it easier,
because of the possible long timeouts.

The chance of them surprisekilling you isn't high,
as they still have to respawn and the waiting times apply.

You only get killed if you don't pay attention.


Gridwide ECM seems semibalanced around the fact that
they don't despawn that often anymore.


Works out for me and the lesser gankers don't really deal with faction police anyway,
so I guess it works out. Maybe should put a bit more thought into this, but got no reason tbh.

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#13 - 2014-08-07 15:41:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
I corrected the OP a bit to make it more reflect actual reality.

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#14 - 2014-08-07 16:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
So, when we shoot ganker ships, the cops and the guns will be on our KMs less?

Snip, mind the language please. - ISD Atomic Dove
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#15 - 2014-08-07 16:33:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Khergit Deserters wrote:
So, when we shoot ganker ships, the cops and the guns will be on our KMs less?

No offense here, but usually it's the other way round ...
... and players worthlessly on CONCORD and police lossmails.

Edited out a quote with a rule breaking post and please mind the language you use. - ISD Atomic Dove

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

Solecist Project
#16 - 2014-08-07 17:12:53 UTC
Thanks, CCP! *kinks* <3 (:

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Paranoid Loyd
#17 - 2014-08-07 17:16:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Christina Project wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
So, when we shoot ganker ships, the cops and the guns willbe on our KMs less?

No offense here, but usually it's the other way round ...
... and players worthlessly on CONCORD and police lossmails.


The troll sniffer gets trolled. Lol


Edited out a quote with a rule breaking post. - ISD Atomic Dove

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#18 - 2014-08-07 17:19:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Christina Project wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
So, when we shoot ganker ships, the cops and the guns will be on our KMs less?

No offense here, but usually it's the other way round ...
... and players worthlesslyon CONCORD and police lossmails.


The troll sniffer gets trolled. Lol
Aww crap. -.-
But I know this guy from anti-ganking channel ..............

......... errr ... oh.



Damn! XD


Also, thanks for calling me that!
I don't really get enough credit. -.-'


Edited out a quote with a rule breaking post. - ISD Atomic Dove

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-08-07 17:59:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Christina Project wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Christina Project wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
So, when we shoot ganker ships, the cops and the guns will be on our KMs less?

No offense here, but usually it's the other way round ...
... and players worthlessly on CONCORD and police lossmails.


The troll sniffer gets trolled. Lol
Aww crap. -.-
But I know this guy from anti-ganking channel ..............

......... errr ... oh.



Damn! XD


Also, thanks for calling me that!
I don't really get enough credit. -.-'

I still have no idea how you haven't been kicked from that channel yet. Your continued presence is the greatest troll ever. 10/10


Edited out a quote with a rule breaking post. - ISD Atomic Dove

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2014-08-07 18:26:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Christina Project wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Christina Project wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
So, when we shoot ganker ships, the cops and the guns will be on our KMs less?

No offense here, but usually it's the other way round ...
... and players worthlessly on CONCORD and police lossmails.


The troll sniffer gets trolled. Lol
Aww crap. -.-
But I know this guy from anti-ganking channel ..............

......... errr ... oh.



Damn! XD


Also, thanks for calling me that!
I don't really get enough credit. -.-'

Smile Well, I was being semi-serious. What could be a good thrasher vs. cat fight gets spoiled by cops vaporizing one of the fighters.


Edited out a quote with a rule breaking post. - ISD Atomic Dove
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