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Marmite Gets Dunked on by RVB

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Saeger1737
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#321 - 2014-08-06 18:30:28 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
gnshadowninja wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Oh, and by the way:
Quote:
My ingame name in EVE Online is 'NightmareX' and 'Fatality Killer' (my alt).
Source.

Now that you've posted, I figured it would be a good one to break to the world. Is Tora aware that you are that character, and that you went around him telling you not to post about Rebirth with an obvious alt?



Trolololol.

That is truly getting dunked.

You get a +1 from me.

LOL, you aren't really clever as if you look at my emp history ingame, you will see that i have been in the same corp as Fatality Killer which makes it all obvious. And you guys found it out of EVE Online it self?

Not impressed Lol


Waiting to see you post as "ex-marmite" after today, for defying tora.

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Fatality Killer
Doomheim
#322 - 2014-08-06 18:33:05 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Fatality Killer wrote:
So only because CCP didn't log the rest, doesn't mean the log you see are the final list. Rebirth's killboard shows over 18k kills where the list you are showing are only showing 1/10th of all the kills under those wars. If you goes in manually on each months they have been active and looks at the kills, you will realize that Rebirth have killed way more than just 1500-1600 kills in empire alone in empire wars.
I'll try saying it slower:
18k TOTAL kills over 6 years - 1400 WAR kills over 7 months. These are unconnected figures. Looking at 18k kills overall doesn;t suddenly mean they had more kills in 2012. Go look at zkb if you don't believe it, and dig though the client. All I can tell you mate is that CCPs figures are accurate.

And I'm not arguing about how many kills total they did. I'm looking ONLY AT WAR KILLS.

Again, look at the stats here and look how many kills they got betweeen 2007 and July 2010. Between that timeframe, they have killed 859 targets. And how many kills does they have in 2014?

None. Because of that, you can take away like 3 years of where Rebirth wasn't really active out of the 6 years in total. Which means you can take away 859 kills within those 3 years they wasn't that active from those 18600 kills they have. This means they have like 17500 kills in just 3 years and 3-4 months. And the timeframe where they got those 17500 kills are from August 2010 to December 2013.

So again, how are your numbers accurate when you simply just ignores to see what they have done through those 3 years and 3-4 months they was active?

Lucas Kell wrote:
Are you ********? Like honestly? Have they tested you? Why would me looking at 2013 stats for Devils Warriors tell me ANYTHING about whether or not they disbanded corps in 2012, which is the claim being made?

And no, I didn't do kills from 2011, that's clearly stated. Nightmare wasn't in rebirth in 2011.

Are we talking about Rebirth here or are we not?

If yes, then we are still talking about Rebirth even though they was in Devils Warriors alliance. Rebirth is still the same Rebirth independent of what alliance they are in.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Yes, because CREST didn't show stats in 2011, which I've already stated. At least twice. Are you reading or just writing a generic response?

Not our fault that CCP haven't included the stats from when a corp was all active and doing empire wars. CCP's stats is what it is and it's not showing the stats from 2010 and 2011, therefor you have to manually look on the stats for 2010 and 2011 and then include that with the CREST stats from 2012 and so on.

Lucas Kell wrote:
No, I won't. I will not understand why looking at figures before and after an event will tell me anything relevant.

Well, as explained over, the stats from 2010 and 2011 are still all relevant.
Fatality Killer
Doomheim
#323 - 2014-08-06 18:36:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Fatality Killer
Saeger1737 wrote:
Waiting to see you post as "ex-marmite" after today, for defying tora.

Tora knows about me posting with the alt. He even said to me that it would take max one day for you to figure out that i was an alt of NightmareX.

Anyways. Either Lucas needs to include the whole stats in his figures or else the stats will not be accurate. What i have been telling, my stats are all accurate on how things are. So do i have to tell anything more, really?

No one is going to look at his half baked stats that's only showing llike 20% of the wars they had.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#324 - 2014-08-06 18:38:01 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
LOL, you aren't really clever as if you look at my emp history ingame, you will see that i have been in the same corp as Fatality Killer which makes it all obvious. And you guys found it out of EVE Online it self?

Not impressed Lol
Yes, I'm well aware. And your post where you are asking to join merc corps, and some other posts. That's why I called it an obvious alt.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#325 - 2014-08-06 18:40:21 UTC
Alright, as everything is on schedule for Round 2 of the war against RvB. I hope all other merc are ready for some pew pew today?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#326 - 2014-08-06 18:44:30 UTC
Fatality Killer wrote:
And the timeframe where they got those 17500 kills are from August 2010 to December 2013.
And the timeframe in which you got over half those kills was in or after 2013, a time AFTER you claim to have disbanded corps.

And that STILL doesn't change the fact that CCPs stats are accurate lol.

Fatality Killer wrote:
So again, how are your numbers accurate when you simply just ignores to see what they have done through those 3 years and 3-4 months they was active?
How are they accurate? You mean beside being provided BY CCP?

Fatality Killer wrote:
Are we talking about Rebirth here or are we not?

If yes, then we are still talking about Rebirth even though they was in Devils Warriors alliance. Rebirth is still the same Rebirth independent of what alliance they are in.
LOL. So yesterday when you were screaming "WE DID IT IN 2012!!!", now you are changing your mind? Further proof that it's made up bullshit.

Fatality Killer wrote:
Not our fault that CCP haven't included the stats from when a corp was all active and doing empire wars. CCP's stats is what it is and it's not showing the stats from 2010 and 2011, therefor you have to manually look on the stats for 2010 and 2011 and then include that with the CREST stats from 2012 and so on.
War stats weren't reccorded at all in 2011, not even in game. and even if I manually went though all the stats, the result would be the same. You are just trying to be as difficult as you can to prolong your bullshit lies as long as you can.

Face it buddy, you lied, you got called on it, you lost. Everyone here can see it, and you're just embarrassing yourself and your alliance by kicking and screaming this much about it. Just admit its made up bullshit and salvage whatever scraps of dignity you have left, and to try to make Tora not want to insta-kick you from your corp.

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Silet'kaa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#327 - 2014-08-06 18:48:22 UTC
Do all threads in C&P devolve this far?

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#328 - 2014-08-06 18:49:15 UTC
Silet'kaa wrote:
Do all threads in C&P devolve this far?


It depends if Lucas sees them and gets a good fish on the hook.

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Fatality Killer
Doomheim
#329 - 2014-08-06 18:52:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Fatality Killer
Fatality Killer wrote:
Anyways. Either Lucas needs to include the whole stats in his figures or else the stats will not be accurate. What i have been telling, my stats are all accurate on how things are. So do i have to tell anything more, really?

No one is going to look at his half baked stats that's only showing llike 20% of the wars they had.

I'm just gonna quote my self again incase you didn't figure this out yet Lucas. Why look at half baked stats from CCP (just because their stats doesn't go longer back than 2012?) when they haven't included the wars from earlier than 2012 when Rebirth was very active to doing empire wars?

It doesn't make sense. It makes sense that you have to use the statistics for all 3 years Rebirth was active and THEN calculate on how they did in wars and so on from that. Using stats from just one year out of 3 years isn't telling the true story about the corp.

This is simple stuffs to understand.
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#330 - 2014-08-06 18:54:02 UTC
Yes im stupid, im the one who has been caught posting on an alt then continues to switch between main and alt to post.

This makes complete sense to my stupid mind.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#331 - 2014-08-06 18:57:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Fatality Killer wrote:
I'm just gonna quote my self again incase you didn't figure this out yet Lucas. Why look at half baked stats from CCP (just because their stats doesn't go longer back than 2012?) when they haven't included the wars from earlier than 2012?

It doesn't make sense. It makes sense that you have to use the statistics for all 3 years Rebirth was active and THEN calculate on how they did in wars and so on from that. Using stats from just one year out of 3 years isn't telling the true story.
Well since your initial claim was that it was in 2012, it tells a large part of the story. It tells us that you were making it up. And just because their kill stats don't go back further than 2012 doesn;t mean they are half baked. You simply want to discredit them because they prove you wrong. The problem you have here is that you can;t prove you are right.

So at this point in time, I've proven that your initial claim was a lie, and that one third of your active time contains 0 of the 20 disbands you claim to have. While all you've proven is that you don't read, you don't understand how stats work, that your alliance leader has told you to stop posting because you're an embarrassment and that you are completely incapable of owning up to your failure.

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Fatality Killer
Doomheim
#332 - 2014-08-06 19:02:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Fatality Killer
Lucas Kell wrote:
WEll since your initial claim was that it was in 2012, it tells a large part of the story. It tells us that you were making it up. And just because their kill stats don't go back further than 2012 doesn;t mean they are half baked. You simply want to discredit them because they prove you wrong. The problem you have here is that you can;t prove you are right. So at this point in time, I've proven that your initial claim was a lie, and that one third of your active time contains 0 of the 20 disbands you claim to have. While all you've proven is that you don't read, you don't understand how stats work, that your alliance leader has told you to stop posting because you're an embarrassment and that you are completely incapable of owning up to your failure.

Lets just forget the thing that i left Rebirth in 2012 as i forgot that i joined Rebirth a 2nd time in the end of 2012 where i was until Rebirth went inactive in March 2013. So i was basicly in Rebirth in 2013 to.

So if you looks away from when i was in Rebirth, then you can rather look at what Rebirth did within those 3 years instead that will tell another story about how many they have war dec'ed and so on.

So that i'm saying that Rebirth managed to dispand around 20 corps from 2010 to 2012 where some few of those are alliances is all true as the list you provides doesn't shows the corps that dispanded to us before 2012.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#333 - 2014-08-06 19:08:13 UTC
Fatality Killer wrote:
Lets just forget the thing that i left Rebirth in 2012 as i forgot that i joined Rebirth a 2nd time in the end of 2012 where i was until Rebirth went inactive in March 2013. So i was basicly in Rebirth until 2013.

So if you looks away from when i was in Rebirth, then you can look at what Rebirth did within those 3 years instead that will tell another story about how many they have war dec'ed and so on.
I can see how much they've wardecced, it's only the kills that are missing from early data. That doesn't change the fact that you are totally making the claims up. You want to give me the runaround by changing your claim, which if anything proves even more that it's all lies.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#334 - 2014-08-06 19:10:17 UTC
I would like to direct your attention to the newly-formed "Rebirth Sucks" thread. Please take the discussion there until that thread has been locked.


You know, in an effort to re-rail the thread.

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Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#335 - 2014-08-06 19:15:09 UTC
guys pls this is a thread about marmite getting wrecked when they try to pvp like the big boys, nobody knows or cares who rebirth is

.
Fatality Killer
Doomheim
#336 - 2014-08-06 19:23:31 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Fatality Killer wrote:
Lets just forget the thing that i left Rebirth in 2012 as i forgot that i joined Rebirth a 2nd time in the end of 2012 where i was until Rebirth went inactive in March 2013. So i was basicly in Rebirth until 2013.

So if you looks away from when i was in Rebirth, then you can look at what Rebirth did within those 3 years instead that will tell another story about how many they have war dec'ed and so on.
I can see how much they've wardecced, it's only the kills that are missing from early data. That doesn't change the fact that you are totally making the claims up. You want to give me the runaround by changing your claim, which if anything proves even more that it's all lies.

That's your claims. My claims is that i have been in Rebirth for like one and a half year, so i know the statistics. That's all that's needed to be said.

So, are you still gonna go on about your guesses or are we gonna try to be on topic?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#337 - 2014-08-06 19:27:36 UTC
Fatality Killer wrote:
That's your claims. My claims is that i have been in Rebirth for like one and a half year, so i know the statistics. That's all that's needed to be said.

So, are you still gonna go on about your guesses or are we gonna try to be on topic?
So you were in rebiirth, therefore you couldn't possibly lie, while CCP stats are totally unreliable. That really what you are going with?

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Fatality Killer
Doomheim
#338 - 2014-08-06 19:44:23 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Fatality Killer wrote:
That's your claims. My claims is that i have been in Rebirth for like one and a half year, so i know the statistics. That's all that's needed to be said.

So, are you still gonna go on about your guesses or are we gonna try to be on topic?
So you were in rebiirth, therefore you couldn't possibly lie, while CCP stats are totally unreliable. That really what you are going with?

When CCP doesn't include the war stats from earlier than 2012, then we have to use that + the other stats that was before that. So why are you making it so hard?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#339 - 2014-08-06 19:51:45 UTC
Fatality Killer wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Fatality Killer wrote:
That's your claims. My claims is that i have been in Rebirth for like one and a half year, so i know the statistics. That's all that's needed to be said.

So, are you still gonna go on about your guesses or are we gonna try to be on topic?
So you were in rebiirth, therefore you couldn't possibly lie, while CCP stats are totally unreliable. That really what you are going with?

When CCP doesn't include the war stats from earlier than 2012, then we have to use that + the other stats that was before that. So why are you making it so hard?
lol, because as usual, every time you get proven wrong, you change your story. Even If I were to break down all of your old wars, you'd start to claim some other new reason why that's wrong.

You are a liar. End of story.

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Solitary Pal
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#340 - 2014-08-06 20:25:26 UTC
Is it any wonder marmite and co are getting slaughtered by rvb when they have retards like nightmare fatality x or whatever name he's trying to go by today. This thread pretty much sums up why most of my alliance outright refuse to work with said merc conglomerate.

I have a monocle therefore my opinion matters more than yours.