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New Drone Meta OP?

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Medalyn Isis
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-08-06 11:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Medalyn Isis
I've noticed recently drone ships are fielded a lot more in the recent months. The reasons are obvious, they lack all of the drawbacks of their respective turret/launcher counterparts, ie, ability to re equip to effectively apply damage to any target from a frigate to a battleship, immunity to ewar unless every drone is individually targeted and ewar applied, massive amounts of applicable dps with all the recent buffs.

Add on to all the inherent traits that drones have, the fact that drone hulls themselves have been recently revamped and buffed, along with a plethora of new drone modules added, and that has tipped the drone system to being imbalanced now in my opinion.

Remember, drones where never meant to be a primary weapon system when initially envisioned by CCP. Now they obviously are a primary weapon system, although have never been balanced alongside the other primary weapon systems properly.

The drawbacks of drones are that they can be destroyed, although this isn't a big issue as most drone ships have large enough drone bays to compensate for any losses. Also another drawback is that they are slow to reach the target, although with the recent drone buffs that isn't so much the case anymore, and you can reequip to sentries to apply instant dps anyway.

In my experience, drone ships have become dominant in the new meta, and I'm hoping for a rebalance at some point soon. The problems with the Ishtar are more fundamental that simply nerfing the Ishtar hull in my opinion.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#2 - 2014-08-06 11:59:45 UTC
You're a little bit late to the party. Just a little bit.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-08-06 13:16:44 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
You're a little bit late to the party. Just a little bit.

Pretty much this. The search function, it is your friend. I stopped counting the "wtf Ishtar?" threads as soon as I came back from my Eve vacation.
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-08-06 13:24:54 UTC
I love flying Gila, with my Vespa II 's P

I sure hope it doesn't get the nurf hammer, dedicated most of my skill points into drones Shocked

EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"

Janice en Marland
Cross Saber Holdings
#5 - 2014-08-06 13:42:53 UTC
You guys are out in force now. Drones have been an afterthought but now they can be properly used. Once people start taking them into account, they will find ways to counter them.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#6 - 2014-08-06 13:45:21 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
You're a little bit late to the party. Just a little bit.



Nonsense, if Lincoln is elected, the South WILL succeed , how can you not seem what's coming? Also what century is this again?
Angelica Everstar
#7 - 2014-08-06 14:07:32 UTC
Medalyn Isis wrote:
Remember, drones where never meant to be a primary weapon system when initially envisioned by CCP. Now they obviously are a primary weapon system, although have never been balanced alongside the other primary weapon systems properly.


Think you have not read why the latest changes where made Roll
Drones are now a primary weapon system, and are actually less good now (Minus for f#cked hulls - like the Ishtar).

So - yes, you are going to see more use of this "new" primary weapon system
Just notice the increased use of fighters Twisted

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ACME Mineral and Gas
#8 - 2014-08-06 14:12:21 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
You're a little bit late to the party. Just a little bit.



Nonsense, if Lincoln is elected, the South WILL succeed , how can you not seem what's coming? Also what century is this again?

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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-08-06 14:16:20 UTC
This reminds me why I crosstrained to gallente back in 2006, after 6 months going straight Caldari on 3 accounts... Now I can fly pretty much everything just because some changes here and there can nerf or buff something and we never know.

Adapting since 2006, but never coming to the forum to complain (read my signature), at least not in GD.Roll

It's a shame we have ppl asking and complaining about some ship in EVE as if they could not change, behavior we are used to see in other MMOs where you must pick a "class" and stick to it.

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)

Blobskillz McBlub
Drone Riders
#10 - 2014-08-06 14:47:22 UTC
the problem is not the drones. The problem is the Ishtar. Every other drone boat is fine as is, though the gila might need some light tweaking but nothing major.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2014-08-06 15:39:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Unsuccessful At Everything
CCP, Wai you make mai Draek obsoleet?

CCP, Wai you rooinz mai Zellit fleetz?

CCP, Wai you rooinz my Arty Abbadin doctrin?

CCP, Wai mai flaver of da munth ship no longur OP?




Edit: I have no clue what the **** is wrong with the links.. just assume they were going to be animated crying kittens.

Edit of the edit: Ok..maybe theyre fixed now.

Edit of the edited edit: Maybe not.

Edit of the edited edit edit: Definitely fixed now. Post now has 400% more sad kitteh.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-08-06 15:59:29 UTC
Yup, definitely, the "old" players retention will be a problem for CCP if they keep changing the game to cater these crying kittens.

They will never turn "old" players anyways, isn't?

When I started playing EVE, the attributes were all 12 max, you had to train 2+ months only to be able to have them at what they are nowadays in the very 1st trial day, no +9 implants, no neural remaps (respec)... it took me 2 weeks to fly a kestrel.

Well, the way it is going, in some new expansion, perhaps we can have a Titan instead of a Rookie ship being given by Aura to complete the tutorial...

Roll

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)

Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-08-06 15:59:43 UTC
And seriously...who is going to take down BoB? I swear nullsec is broken...CCP should do something!

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.

Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-08-06 16:08:43 UTC
Just because something is not what CCP envisioned it to be does not mean it is bad, the best thing that happened to drones is the fact they can be used in a way CCP didnt intend, its fun and another option for ppl to use, it is just upto CCP to sort it in a way that makes it not better or worse than any other way to play the game
flakeys
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-08-06 17:39:31 UTC
Doc brown ? Is that you? When did you put me into the DeLorean ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-08-06 18:05:56 UTC
Guys pls, CCP Rise said that sentries have enormous downsides so this whole drone thing is just your imagination.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#17 - 2014-08-06 18:12:16 UTC
Cherry Yeyo wrote:
Guys pls, CCP Rise said that sentries have enormous downsides so this whole drone thing is just your imagination.



And he's right. I can't remember the last time I was in a fight and forgot to scoop my Autocannons and so didn't have Autocannons for the fight in the next system. I can't ever remember someone jamming ONE of my Lasers (cutting off 20% of my DPS) or shooting one of my Rail Guns.
Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2014-08-06 19:44:53 UTC
We still have a dessy hull without a T2 version, why not make it an anti-drone and ceptor boat? One capable of hitting small fast things? Also, [Insert drawback of my idea here]

O tempora o mores!

Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-08-06 20:09:22 UTC
Christopher AET wrote:
And seriously...who is going to take down BoB? I swear nullsec is broken...CCP should do something!

I see what you did there.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2014-08-06 21:37:29 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Christopher AET wrote:
And seriously...who is going to take down BoB? I swear nullsec is broken...CCP should do something!

I see what you did there.

I really hope you did, because if you didn't, the friggin Mittani signal will be shown on clouds above Gotham, and we will all have to hear his boisterous rendition of it once more, only this time it wont be in a story form, comic form, or even sung by a medieval minstral, it will be done in entirely Kubuki Dance.

Frankly, Id pay to watch that, but I doubt I could handle it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

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