In-Game Events and Gatherings

It takes 16min give or take for a new player to get into a venture (I believe you get one free as one of the training mission rewards too)

However it takes over 18days to train into a T1 mining barge on a stock character, no implants. Not to mention the fact that mining barge can not be trained on trial accounts. Also from what I can remember from back when I started playing and knew nothing (had no one helping me) it took me over 10 days just to get 20mill.

Now when you have rewards like, what are you guys up to, 5 plex? people will do whatever it takes to win. Goons should be particularly familiar with that concept, doing everything possible within the game mechanics to win, and for that kind of prize(s) I can see people willing to toe/go over the line to win.

This means that while code is not directly saying that you should go into or around new player systems to get venture kills, that WOULD be a great place to run into ventures in the first place. specifically ventures that don't know to warp off so you don't have to worry about the built in warp core stabs either. Easy pickings.

See why I say code encourages EULA breaking? Now weather its consciously or not is not clear yet but the longer code encourages this behavior with this competition (and the lavish prizes that come with it) the longer it seems to point to a conscious effort from code's side.

That goes the same for CCP as well. The message will be pretty clear, CCP condones/allows new player griefing.

If you are a new player and you figured out these space forums even exist and you found the subtopic, then subthread that leads you to this wonderful player event, then you are on the right track, but you're probably an alt.

Yes, this game is about shooting spaceships. So how about T1 frig or destroyer hunt competition? Those ships are also flown by newbies. Excellent introduction to EVE, being shot down in combat ship.

But rookie mining ships only? And in hisec only? This is a textbook example of picking up on new, inexperienced players by weak minded individuals , no matter how you will try to justify this competition.

Im looking at hisec venture lossmails right now, Most of the victims are few days old characters with horrible fits (that means they are not experienced players bot alts, but true newbies)...

picking on newbie mining ship is serious business i can say that . No wonder why EVE subs are decreasing among new players.

Next competition = siege of rookie systems..... YAY

Being new to a game does not mean I am new to gaming, or browsing forums for that matter. I AM new to EVE and am not an alt. I have friends who are experienced players, and they are guiding me to a degree, but they did not tell me what to do when a flashing red ship warps in and 2-shots me. There was absolutely no time for me to warp away if I even knew to...

I found the thread because someone in local chat made me aware of the competition and gave me a link.

What is the objective of this competition if not to deter new players from subscribing? You think this makes people excited to play? "Oh, I got killed by a player in a more powerful ship after I've been mining for the last 15 minutes, and lost half the stuff I had. Lets do that again! Yay! SO MUCH FUN FOR ME!" I promise you, that is not anyone's thought process...

This logic is moot after the PLEX hauling venture, the 50Mill Scram Venture, and the random other faction Venture... Yeah I am sure you will say blah blah rookie system, but as the rules have been stated, we are not accepting that. The top runners as of now have 0 kills in (and I am almost willing to bet the vague 'around') so all I can say is TALLY-HO!

Also does anyone else like Ice Soccer?

You are laboring under the misunderstanding that the intended combat is supposed to be fair (fair in this case having the very narrow meaning of; being aware that they are being targetted, and in ships of roughly equal combat ability).

The vast majority of EVE combat is not "fair," regardless of whether the target is armed or not. If it is "fair," you've done something wrong.

Also, please don't compare the non consensual explosion of imaginary spaceships to the very real tragedy of school shootings. It is disgraceful.

There are many things you can do;

1. Learn the difference between non consensual PVP and griefing as CCP defines it under the TOS and EULA. Insisting this event is griefing only makes you look whiny and ignorant.

2. Learn who are likely to be targeting you (Hint; anybody in CODE. is a good start) and make sure that if they are in the same system as you, you leave.

3. Learn how to use d-scan. If there is a catalyst on short range scan; warp off somewhere else.

4. Learn to use the map to identify where ships have been destroyed and don't be there when you want to mine.

5. Don't be predictable. There are many systems you can mine in. Don't go to the same one every time

6. Avoid any systems that are on the "shortest" route on the map between the major trade centres.

7. If a ship appears in your belt, see if a little laser shoots from it, to you. They are scanning your ship, and people with guns will be along shortly. Run.

8. Lay a trap. Sit in a cheap, disposable ship. Wait for a ganker to come and blow you up. When he appears, shoot him (if he has very bad standings, and he probably will; you'll be able to legally shoot him even before he starts shooting you).

9. Fly with friends to help you do the above, or act as scouts.

10. Share information with your friends. If you know that a ganker is in a certain system, share that information with them, and ask them to do the same.

11. Find other means of earning ISK. Have you tried running missions? You will specifically not be targetted under this Venture venture (ho ho!) and if another type of ganker comes along, at least you'll be armed.

12. Make friends with a large corporation who you can mine in a group with, who know how to mine with appropriate defense systems in place.


There you go. Literally a dozen things you could do in this situation.

In one ear, and out the other.

How many were killed monthly over the last 6 months, and what was their average age, just for comparison's sake?

If it wasn't clear that I was interested in their average age *at the time of their death* then I apologize for my vagueness.