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Escort carriers.

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Stephanie Rosefire
Atlas Protectorate and Empire Defense Agency
#1 - 2014-08-06 02:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Stephanie Rosefire
CCP. Please. make this happen.

http://kero40.deviantart.com/art/ESCORT-CARRIERS-COMPILATION-180571190

obviously the name for the minmatar one needs to be different
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#2 - 2014-08-06 02:05:58 UTC
This was one of the once a week threads about a year ago. Basically it sounds cool until you think about what the stats would be; a domi is more or less this ship.

Carriers are escort carriers to supers in the grander sense.
Stephanie Rosefire
Atlas Protectorate and Empire Defense Agency
#3 - 2014-08-06 02:06:48 UTC
NERF THE DOMI!!!

obviously im kidding, but man, this would be awesome...
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#4 - 2014-08-06 02:10:57 UTC
You'll notice if you look at the images closer, they're smaller than the domi.
Stephanie Rosefire
Atlas Protectorate and Empire Defense Agency
#5 - 2014-08-06 02:12:42 UTC
make them like attack battlecruisers. weak tank, loads of damage
Stephanie Rosefire
Atlas Protectorate and Empire Defense Agency
#6 - 2014-08-06 02:16:07 UTC
give them the ability to fly a flight of 5 fighters
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#7 - 2014-08-06 02:18:37 UTC
What an amazingly original idea. This hasn't come up dozens or even hundreds of time and been shot down each time.

/sarcasm

L2Search.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#8 - 2014-08-06 02:20:07 UTC
Stephanie Rosefire wrote:
make them like attack battlecruisers. weak tank, loads of damage

That's where things get awkward, the only advantage they have over an actual ABC at that point is dps that gives chase. (That dps costs 200m, by the way). And being chased by fighters after getting by a gate camp is just kicking someone for winning. While it can be done now it requires either a carrier on gate or keeping a fleet member from dropping their own drones. At they end it's a 400m ABC that only works if it ruins the game balance.

So yeah, sounds good until you think about it.
Heat-seeking Moisture Missile
Deep Thought Labs
#9 - 2014-08-06 02:31:22 UTC
What's their hourly rate?

Is a happy ending guaranteed?

Stephanie Rosefire
Atlas Protectorate and Empire Defense Agency
#10 - 2014-08-06 02:41:09 UTC
Paikis wrote:
What an amazingly original idea. This hasn't come up dozens or even hundreds of time and been shot down each time.

/sarcasm

L2Search.



you know, i dont frequent the forums. you dont have to be rude about it.
Meandering Milieu
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-08-06 02:42:55 UTC
Can we get a gallente carrier that doesn't look like a space diaphragm? Please?

Bullet Therapist
FT Cold Corporation
#12 - 2014-08-06 04:56:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Bullet Therapist
Seems like you're looking for a ship to bridge the gap between sup-capitals and capitals. Battleships should probably fill that role a little better already but they don't. As for being preoccupied with fighters (if you feel that way at all) I've used them a lot, and I can tell you they're not all they're cracked up to be.

CBCs, battleships, some configurations of T3, a few of the HACs, carriers and supercarriers are all ships that will probably be looked at soon. I don't feel we need another hull that emulates a carrier before the problems with all of the existing ship rebalance issues are dealt with.
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-08-06 06:43:43 UTC
HiddenPorpoise wrote:
This was one of the once a week threads about a year ago. Basically it sounds cool until you think about what the stats would be; a domi is more or less this ship.

Carriers are escort carriers to supers in the grander sense.

if they used that model for the domi it would be sweet...
the supposed domi redraw is nice but I like this more, is a mix between the new gallente style and gallente carrier line - making domi feel more a mini-carrier than a sweet potato.
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#14 - 2014-08-06 08:43:24 UTC
Again this idea, again I'll vote for it.

I think they would be interesting ships as subcap-cap gap fillers. Small enough to fit on stargates. Can't use fighters/bombers, but have increased efficiency bonuses for all other drones (increased damage, repping ammount, ECM power, hitpoints...), while having enormous dronebay and bandwith. Can fit Drone Control Units that affect regular drones, but don't have turret/launcher hardpoints. Great tank and capacitor, little mobility.

And that artwork is awesome, period.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#15 - 2014-08-06 08:52:28 UTC
Pretty pictures for a role not needed. Sorry, 'just because' is no reason to implement a new ship.

Gallente looks great though, Amarr a bit 'stacked' and awkward.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#16 - 2014-08-06 10:26:19 UTC
Stephanie Rosefire wrote:
you know, i dont frequent the forums. you dont have to be rude about it.


Sarcasm is my default setting. Also you should use search.
Hakan MacTrew
Konrakas Forged
Solyaris Chtonium
#17 - 2014-08-06 11:40:13 UTC
I've said this a few times in the past in other similar threads, (and I am sure i've seen at least 2 of those threads with the exact same picture used,) but I just don't see a place for this kind of ship as a T1 hull.

But I do see a possible line for it as a T2 BS.

No fighters, no turrets, no launchers, maybe a role bonus to field 1 or 2 extra drones, minor RR bonuses, (like just range or 4% per level cap usage reduction,) and a small fleet hanger (500m3,) and maintainance bay (60,000m3.)

Literally have them as mini-debuffed-carriers with reduced T2 resists and slot layout.

Training wheels for capitals. Afterall, that's kind of where Marauders are.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#18 - 2014-08-06 11:41:23 UTC
i like the gallente and caldari ones ... the minmatar one doesn't really feel like its minmatar and the amarr one just looks like an abbadon

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-08-06 13:31:18 UTC
I'd support call-girl carriers.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-08-06 15:01:20 UTC
Actually, if CCP splits carriers into two role focused hulls, one combat, and one logistics, this might not be a terrible idea.
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