Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Simple really. They were a joke in 2003 and they are a joke now.

Did not train.

Make them also target drones and do tripple damage to sentries.

Two birds one stone [cup]

Buff defender missile range, make them auto-target bombs and drones.

Just 'chaff launcher'

high slot, launcher
reduces all incoming damage by 5%

skill adds .5%

New baitship dynamic.
And for one week, the people who trained that skill to V will be the ones who are laughing.

Turrets don't get speed tanked.

You want to buff defenders aka nerf missiles then you need to buff missiles especially heavies first.

What.

I don't wanna get techincal at you, but I'm gonna get technical at you.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/thumb/a/aa/ChanceToHitv2.png/775px-ChanceToHitv2.png

Do me a favor and take a look at that page, don't worry its just the turret damage formula.
You see that part there that says Traveral Speed. Thats the speed of what your shooting at, as it rotates around your ship (could also be called "Tangental Speed") Ships going too fast for the tracking/range variables, and forcing that fraction to get larger, get hit less often and thus take less damage. If a ship is flying above a certain threshold orbiting a target it can take literally 0 damage. This can be mitigated by using TPs, Webs, and other things to modify teh variables, but yes turrets are speedtanked all the time.

I did not indicate a that I wanted a buff to defender missiles, I was merely relating suggestions I've read regarding defender missiles over the years. Moreover a buff to defender missiles is not synonymous with a nerf to missiles. It depends on how they're changed, if they ever are.

Also, turrets do get speed tanked. Maintaining transversal against a target with worse tracking than your own weapons is a concept critical to being effective in PVP and very often PVE.

Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread, but I've also thought for a while that it would be interesting to have a module (maybe a high-slot) that has a chance of causing a negative effect against your ship to miss. My thought on this is that rather than have the incoming damage reduce my some fixed percentage, the module instead causes any effect against your ship to have a chance to miss. This includes e-war, attacks, basically anything.

The rationale behind it is that it then becomes an interesting item for offense and defense. The chance to avoid a jam might allow you to kill that logistics ship, or it might allow you to run your MWD a little longer to get in range. Otherwise, you might avoid a crushing hit, allowing you to rep back out of structure and win the fight, or even get away. It adds an element of randomness to things that are right now quite absolute.

I was thinking that there would be three sizes, with the chance to avoid a detrimental effect going up in accordance with ship size. The thinking here is with smaller ships avoiding an effect is going to have a bigger chance to influence the fight, as fights in smaller ships are typically faster and don't as often involve as many players landing webs/scrams etc. The chances for it to deflect an effect might be something like 5%, 10% and 20% or 5-8-10 depending on how strong it's deemed to be, in order of small, medium and large.

It would probably have to be active and probably require ammunition or charges and be limited to a single module per ship.

Maybe, it's an interesting thought and it if ever happened it might be a lot of fun.