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Marmite Gets Dunked on by RVB

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#261 - 2014-08-05 22:12:45 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's filtered to show only ones where you scored at least one kill, since nobody relevant is disbanding their corp over a 0 kill wardec. Turns out you did a lot of wardecs with zero kills. Also don't forget that some of those corps you wardecced multiple times and they were deduped.

Since the data comes directly from CCP, I'm pretty sure it's accurate.

Yes, we had some wars to that didn't got any kills. Who doesn't get that?

And if those datas comes from CCP, then proof / pics or it didn't happen. I know that we war dec'ed tons more than the list you gave us. Or what about you linking all of the corps we war dec'ed to?

How about that, hmmmm?

Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, give it up mate. I've proven it's not opinion. I've broken down your killboard data and proven that your story is made up. Even your corp mates don't want to hear it.

You think i will give up to a scrub with some weird opinions / guesses?

You are in for a suprise if you think i will give up that fast to that.

Saeger1737 wrote:
NightmareX no one cares.
1. Does rebirth exist now? No.
2. Do we care? No.
3. Not sure how your still in marmite and not defending marmite but defending a corp that doesn't exist.
4. GET BACK ON TOPIC!!!

1. Rebirth still exists, even 'THE G0D SQUAD' exists now under Kai86 as a player. They are just sleeping. Don't wake them up as long as you don't want to see blood all over empire again Twisted.
2. Lucas Kell cares about Rebirth.
3. Tora enjoys it when i makes Lucas Kell to looks stupid. And yes, i have also been defending Marmite in here incase you aren't aware of that.
4. True. But that's only if Lucas Kell can stop crying over Rebirth though.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#262 - 2014-08-05 22:23:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
NightmareX wrote:
Yes, we had some wars to that didn't got any kills. Who doesn't get that?

And if those datas comes from CCP, then proof / pics or it didn't happen. I know that we war dec'ed tons more than the list you gave us. Or what about you linking all of the corps we war dec'ed to?

How about that, hmmmm?
I didn't say people don't have zero kill wars. Some people hide from wars. I'm just saying that's why you are missing wars, because those wars never generated kills so I disregarded them.

And OK. *snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo. This data is pulled from CCPs newer API system called CREST so it's accurate data, though kill numbers prior to 2012 I believe do not pull through on CREST, hence my decision to start the data pull in 2012.

NightmareX wrote:
You think i will give up to a scrup with some weird opinions / guesses?

You are in for a suprise if you think i will give up that fast.
How do you not understand that these are not opinions or guesses? These are facts pulled directly from CCPs war data. You understand that war data is publicly available in a consumable API format yes? And that I'm a software developer, so consuming and processing that data is a trivial task, yes?

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#263 - 2014-08-05 22:32:21 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Lucas Kell wrote:
I didn't say people don't have zero kill wars. Some people hide from wars. I'm just saying that's why you are missing wars, because those wars never generated kills so I disregarded them.

Yes, we didn't get some kills on some corps and alliances that we war dec'ed back then. But the amount of corps and alliances that we actually war dec'ed and got kills from makes that little list of those we didn't kill so small that it's irrelevant.

Lucas Kell wrote:
And OK. *snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo. This data is pulled from CCPs newer API system called CREST so it's accurate data, though kill numbers prior to 2012 I believe do not pull through on CREST, hence my decision to start the data pull in 2012.

Rebirth as a corp was alot of times out of 'THE G0D SQUAD' to, so we have tons of wars and kills that is only from Rebirth: *snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo

Lucas Kell wrote:
How do you not understand that these are not opinions or guesses? These are facts pulled directly from CCPs war data. You understand that war data is publicly available in a consumable API format yes? And that I'm a software developer, so consuming and processing that data is a trivial task, yes?

Well according to my quotes over, yes, it's still your opinions / guesses.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#264 - 2014-08-05 22:34:04 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Zeus I think you need to start purging some of the idiots from your alliance. Trolling gold in New Caldari earlier when RvB were chasing your members:

*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

Which is it you want Solj? So first you can take on the whole fleet solo next your moaning about blob. People like this give The Pursuit of Happiness a bad name.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#265 - 2014-08-05 22:46:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
NightmareX wrote:
Yes, we didn't get some kills on some corps and alliances that we war dec'ed back then. But the amount of corps and alliances that we actually war dec'ed and got kills from makes that little list of those we didn't kill so small that it's irrelevant.
Well not sure about the list being little, but agreed, those wars were irrelevant, which is why they weren't listed.

NightmareX wrote:
Rebirth as a corp was alot of times out of 'THE G0D SQUAD' to, so we have tons of wars and kills that is only from Rebirth: *snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo
Yes... You know that first list of data I gave you? That was ALL of the rebirth wars. So those that you just linked I already debunked earlier. Here's the thread again in case you missed it.

NightmareX wrote:
Well according to my quotes over, yes, it's still your opinions / guesses.
lol, yes, according to you, it's opinions and guesses. In the actual real world, it's still facts, pulled straight from CCP.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#266 - 2014-08-05 22:58:06 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
Well not sure about the list being little, but agreed, those wars were irrelevant, which is why they weren't listed.

Now, this is absolutely gonna be epic on what i'm gonna tell you about under. You better have your flamesuit on now.

If you look at the info about Rebirth i gave you, you will see that we had 18,636 kills and still only shows around 120 kills under 'Wars' in that long list you gave me.

So can't really say it's the final list then. Not by a long shot.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Yes... You know that first list of data I gave you? That was ALL of the rebirth wars. So those that you just linked I already debunked earlier. Here's the thread again in case you missed it.

No it's not as it only shows like 120 kills under 'Wars' in that list out of 18,636 kills in total. Here you can see every kills we have had each months since 2007.

Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, yes, according to you, it's opinions and guesses. In the actual real world, it's still facts, pulled straight from CCP.

Read over. What i say it's the fact and what you say is just guesses.

So as you have been completely defeated here now, could you just leave this topic if all you can do is to cry over how Rebirth spanked you?

Now let's get back on topic.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#267 - 2014-08-05 23:07:59 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:


And secondly, nobody is peeing in their pants over Russia. Sure, they have some nukes (less than the US) but then a handful of t


Wrooong... research..... current treaty of reduction limits NATO to 1500 active warheads and russia to 1500 active warheads ( NATO side are USA, France and UK.. spliting those 1500). The official stockpiles declared to UN are around 8K for USA, and 14 K for Russia.


No 10 nukes is not as scary as 1000. 10 nukes can be easily stopped byt he current defense missile treaty that accept 150 ICBM interception missiles for each side. Plus 10 nukes cannot destroy a country completely.. 1500 can....


START was signed only by Russia and the United States, not NATO and Russia.

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#268 - 2014-08-05 23:13:41 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Well not sure about the list being little, but agreed, those wars were irrelevant, which is why they weren't listed.

If you look at the info about Rebirth i gave you, you will see that we had 18,636 kills and still only shows around 120 kills under 'Wars' in that long list you gave me.

So can't really say it's the final list then. Not by a long shot.


Kai86 also bragged about manipulating the killboard so many lossmails for wars were not shown under the war headings (case-in-point: When av ra lost his Vindicator to a Marmite trap last year, Kai manually removed it from the war category and was called out on it).

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#269 - 2014-08-05 23:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
4 pages later and we are still off-topic. ISD/DEV, can I pay you 1 bil to ban the spammers?

I could also start handing out war decs..... But I don't think that will fix anything.

Morty Friedman wrote:
Zeus I think you need to start purging some of the idiots from your alliance. Trolling gold in New Caldari earlier when RvB were chasing your members:

*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

Which is it you want Solj? So first you can take on the whole fleet solo next your moaning about blob. People like this give The Pursuit of Happiness a bad name.


Solj is the leader just as much as I am. If you want more fights leave the children at home and bring only what you need.

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Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#270 - 2014-08-05 23:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Morty Friedman wrote:
Zeus I think you need to start purging some of the idiots from your alliance. Trolling gold in New Caldari earlier when RvB were chasing your members:

*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

Which is it you want Solj? So first you can take on the whole fleet solo next your moaning about blob. People like this give The Pursuit of Happiness a bad name.


You should learn to time stamp things and put them in correct order. Those did not both come from today, allow me to correct:

*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

Never saw you show up however.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#271 - 2014-08-05 23:18:51 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
Kai86 also bragged about manipulating the killboard so many lossmails for wars were not shown under the war headings (case-in-point: When av ra lost his Vindicator to a Marmite trap last year, Kai manually removed it from the war category and was called out on it).

Manipulating Rebirth's killboard isn't going to work when zKillboard pulls in kills from the API or EVE-Kill / Battleclinic where everything is stored.

Kai can manipulate his own killboard as much as he like without making any changes to the real stats that is on EVE-Kill / Battleclinic.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#272 - 2014-08-05 23:21:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?
Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#273 - 2014-08-05 23:24:38 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Morty Friedman wrote:
*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?


Maybe you should check my killboard and see that I have fought bigger more impressive things solo or in smaller groups vs 10:1 odds without loss. When its assorted t1 garbage that makes it even easier.

Here you go I'll just leave this here some past abuse on RvB despite their epic blobbage in their own systems:
*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo
Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#274 - 2014-08-05 23:28:37 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
[ 2014.08.05 18:18:44 ] Solj RichPopolous > bring that fleet right there over to anttiri for me
*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?


Maybe you should check my killboard and see that I have fought bigger more impressive things solo or in smaller groups vs 10:1 odds without loss. When its assorted t1 garbage that makes it even easier.

Here you go I'll just leave this here some past abuse on RvB despite their epic blobbage in their own systems:
*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo


lol big ego much? All I see you do is warp off, actually every time I've seen you your warping off.
Andrew Shadows Shadow
Skeggold Skalmold Skildir ro Klofnir
#275 - 2014-08-05 23:28:43 UTC
damn
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#276 - 2014-08-05 23:29:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Morty Friedman wrote:
[ 2014.08.05 18:18:44 ]*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo
LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?


Big talk.

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Andrew Shadows Shadow
Skeggold Skalmold Skildir ro Klofnir
#277 - 2014-08-05 23:34:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Morty Friedman wrote:
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?


Maybe you should check my killboard and see that I have fought bigger more impressive things solo or in smaller groups vs 10:1 odds without loss. When its assorted t1 garbage that makes it even easier.

Here you go I'll just leave this here some past abuse on RvB despite their epic blobbage in their own systems:
*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo


lol big ego much? All I see you do is warp off, actually every time I've seen you your warping off.


whats your kb lookin like bud?
Solj RichPopolous
Silent Havok.
H A R D L I N E R S
#278 - 2014-08-05 23:34:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Morty Friedman wrote:
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo

LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?


Maybe you should check my killboard and see that I have fought bigger more impressive things solo or in smaller groups vs 10:1 odds without loss. When its assorted t1 garbage that makes it even easier.

Here you go I'll just leave this here some past abuse on RvB despite their epic blobbage in their own systems:
*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo


lol big ego much? All I see you do is warp off, actually every time I've seen you your warping off.


I know my limitations depending on what ship I'm in. You asking me to fight 20 guys in a single worm is a bit ludacris. Now if I could actually get the people online at the times I want I guarantee your RvB fleet of assorted junk would end up very much like this fight went with uni also another fleet of assorted junk:

*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo

and that's just what we killed and what showed up on the few loss mails.

Video is available also if you'd like to see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4VSukE8lZs

I don't see you RvBers being up to attacking a fleet when so clearly outnumbered as well as using inferior ship classes.
Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#279 - 2014-08-05 23:34:51 UTC
This is exactly why so many people who are knowledgeable state that loads of mercs on 1 war is pointless. Too many people with massive EGO's who think they can solo everything who won't fleet up with others because they are too pro to join someone elses fleet. Just wait and see round 2 will be a massive merc slaughter again for this exact reason (if it ever happens).
Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#280 - 2014-08-05 23:36:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD BH Supogo
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
Solj RichPopolous wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
*snip* - Do not post chatlogs with names -- ISD Supogo
LOL so you think you can solo a RvB blob and you want them all to turn up just to see you sat in station whining like a little girl?


Maybe you should check my killboard and see that I have fought bigger more impressive things solo or in smaller groups vs 10:1 odds without loss. When its assorted t1 garbage that makes it even easier.

Here you go I'll just leave this here some past abuse on RvB despite their epic blobbage in their own systems:
*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo


lol big ego much? All I see you do is warp off, actually every time I've seen you your warping off.


I know my limitations depending on what ship I'm in. You asking me to fight 20 guys in a single worm is a bit ludacris. Now if I could actually get the people online at the times I want I guarantee your RvB fleet of assorted junk would end up very much like this fight went with uni also another fleet of assorted junk:

*snip* - Do not post links to external killboards -- ISD Supogo

and that's just what we killed and what showed up on the few loss mails.

Video is available also if you'd like to see it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4VSukE8lZs

I don't see you RvBers being up to attacking a fleet when so clearly outnumbered as well as using inferior ship classes.



If you think RvB is anything like Eve Uni you are very much mistaken, they have fought Eve Uni many times in Low / Null sec and always won. People don't give RvB as much respect as they deserve, actually someone from RvB post some battle reports from Euni.