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Marmite Gets Dunked on by RVB

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Kev Ftw
The Filthy Few
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#221 - 2014-08-05 18:55:35 UTC
Reposting two relevant posts that the Merc side should be heavily considering, i.e. actual doctrines.
They seem to have been washed down several pages since NightmareX can't learn to shut the **** up about Rebirth.



Zeus Maximo wrote:
Silet'kaa wrote:
I think it is funny how this thread went from being about MarmitevRvB to a pissing match about old mercs that apparently haven't let the past go.


Honestly it is a little more complicated than that. Some are trying to stick to topic, others are talking about the past, one is probing for war decs, and then the C&P newcomers are trying to make a forum presence.

I figure this thread will be in limbo until the next fight happens ;)

What will the merc field? Ishtars(or vexor navy's), aug navy's, BL geddons(cruises, neuts, and drones), or a arty/rail/beam t3 gang?

Will the mercs realize that in large fleets you dont fit points? Maybe the mercs will just go shield.....




Voyager Arran wrote:
So to talk about something other than horrible pissing contests between irrelevant people, what plans are the Mercs making for further engagements? Obviously Tora took some lessons away from this one (or at least was validated in what he already knew so maybe the other folks will listen next time), but have you looked into coming up with a more cohesive fleet setup? Getting a bunch of independent-minded players from a bunch of different alliances that aren't used to working together and may even actively dislike each other to follow a specific fleet setup is probably asking too much, but if you could just get something as basic as "Bring long-ranged armor ships" it would probably do a lot to improve performance.

Oh, and some of those pilots might need a little course on "Fleet Fitting 101: Stop Stacking Sensor Boosters".
Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#222 - 2014-08-05 18:57:38 UTC
what have i done Shocked

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#223 - 2014-08-05 19:03:13 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Kev Ftw wrote:
They seem to have been washed down several pages since NightmareX can't learn to shut the **** up about Rebirth.

Or it would be even more easy to tell Lucas Kell to stop crying over Rebirth because we spanked his fluffy ass some years ago and he got butthurt over it. Just sayin.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#224 - 2014-08-05 19:05:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
NightmareX wrote:
Then it's as easy for you to look up our killboard and look after some corps we have on our killboard and then look them up ingame to see if they are dispanded.

Now you have a challenge, go.
LOL
So any corp that no longer exists was disbanded because of you? That how it works?

NightmareX wrote:
And those we was fighting that was a PVP force is far from everyone that we was fighting. We was fighting all types of corps and alliances. So yes, the fact that we actually steamrolled ALL PVP forces in empire back then are all true. But that doesn't mean we dispanded all of them. We dispanded some more weaker corporations that went bankrupt because we did more damage to them than they could gain isk.
I didn't say you said you disbanded ALL of them, did I? Try learning to read.
But you do claim to have steamrolled every PvP corp and alliance? So did you steamroll marmite?

NightmareX wrote:
Ahh ok, so you are admittedly confirming in public here now that you don't want to see the facts as that would make you look like an idiot. Nice damage control there bro.
No, you can show me the facebook page if you want, but what does that prove? Nothing. It's a facebook page.
Look, it's one of 2 ways either:
a) Rebirth no longer exists, and you are just marmite members
or
b) Rebirth does still exist as a unit within marmite, thus your unit is made of "elite PvPers".

Which is it?

NightmareX wrote:
Do you want me to prove you those things?

Alright, but you have to prove me some other things first. If you denies to prove things, then don't expect others to prove things to you. Otherwise you are just ignorant.
LOL, that's not how it works, artard. I'm not the one making ridiculous claims. Your utter refusal to prove it, and your continues sidestepping the issues is just further proof that you are lying. You're just going to ask me some ridiculous question that I can't possibly prove, and if I can prove it, you'll claim the proof is lies too. You're basically acting like a schoolchild because you've been caught out in a lie.

Honestly, you're an embarrassment to Marmite and I don't know why they don't just kick you the **** out and be done with you stiring up ****. It's not like you are a marmite anyway, you're gonna reform rebirth.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#225 - 2014-08-05 19:06:31 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Kev Ftw wrote:
They seem to have been washed down several pages since NightmareX can't learn to shut the **** up about Rebirth.

Or it would be even more easy to tell Lucas Kell to stop crying over Rebirth because we spanked his fluffy ass some years ago and he got butthurt over it. Just sayin.
lol, you can keep telling yourself that all you like. The fact is, like most people you always were and still are totally irrelevant. Rebirth was a bunch of whiners when it was alive and it's a bunch of whiners now it's dead.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#226 - 2014-08-05 19:16:36 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
LOL
So any corp that no longer exists was disbanded because of you? That how it works?

Alright, so you confirms that it's hard to go back and find what kind of corps we dispanded. And still you expect peoples to go back and confirm this to you?

You aren't very clever.

Lucas Kell wrote:
I didn't say you said you disbanded ALL of them, did I? Try learning to read.
But you do claim to have steamrolled every PvP corp and alliance? So did you steamroll marmite?

Steamrolled most PVP forces in empire back when we in Rebirth was active is true. If you don't believe it, you are free to do a research about it ingame if you want to prove me wrong. I'm just telling what happened when i was in Rebirth then.

Lucas Kell wrote:
No, you can show me the facebook page if you want, but what does that prove? Nothing. It's a facebook page.
Look, it's one of 2 ways either:
a) Rebirth no longer exists, and you are just marmite members
or
b) Rebirth does still exist as a unit within marmite, thus your unit is made of "elite PvPers".

Which is it?

Yes, Rebirth as a corp is just sleeping while the core group that is Rebirth is just active under another corp. If Rebirth haven't gone inactive, then none of us would leave the corp either. Once Rebirth, always Rebirth. Not only that, the fact that Rebirth goes inactive from time to time is normal. It have gone inactive and come back alot of times, thus Rebirth as a corp is just sleeping.

So think whatever you want. But i know more about Rebirth than your smug guesses are.

Lucas Kell wrote:
LOL, that's not how it works, artard. I'm not the one making ridiculous claims. Your utter refusal to prove it, and your continues sidestepping the issues is just further proof that you are lying. You're just going to ask me some ridiculous question that I can't possibly prove, and if I can prove it, you'll claim the proof is lies too. You're basically acting like a schoolchild because you've been caught out in a lie.

Well, it's up to you now if you want me to prove you those things. If you expect me to prove you things, then you have to prove me those other things i have been asking for earlier before i will apply to your request.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Honestly, you're an embarrassment to Marmite and I don't know why they don;t just kick you the **** out and be done with you stiring up ****. It's not like you are a marmite anyway, you're gonna reform rebirth.

Your opinion, just your opinion bro. So move on with your crying.

I'm a core group of Rebirth, but i'm currently in Marmite, so until i leave Marmite, i'm a Marmite as an alliance member.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#227 - 2014-08-05 19:18:15 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Kev Ftw wrote:
They seem to have been washed down several pages since NightmareX can't learn to shut the **** up about Rebirth.

Or it would be even more easy to tell Lucas Kell to stop crying over Rebirth because we spanked his fluffy ass some years ago and he got butthurt over it. Just sayin.
lol, you can keep telling yourself that all you like. The fact is, like most people you always were and still are totally irrelevant. Rebirth was a bunch of whiners when it was alive and it's a bunch of whiners now it's dead.

No, you are lying until you prove it that you didn't got killed by us.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#228 - 2014-08-05 19:22:18 UTC
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SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!

Will the might of Ex-Rebirth triumph, or will the ELITE PVP from Nullsec prove unbeatable?

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Seriously, I would fly to the ends of new eden to witness it.

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John Ending
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#229 - 2014-08-05 19:34:18 UTC
who is rebirth? some highsec guys?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#230 - 2014-08-05 19:43:47 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Alright, so you confirms that it's hard to go back and find what kind of corps we dispanded. And still you expect peoples to go back and confirm this to you?
No, I'm claiming that me goign back looking through all your kills will only show me alliances and corps that no longer exist. You could go thouh though and undoubtedly alliances and corps that you forced to disband will generally stick in your mind. You can then work on proving it.

NightmareX wrote:
Steamrolled most PVP forces in empire back when we in Rebirth was active is true. If you don't believe it, you are free to do a research about it ingame if you want to prove me wrong. I'm just telling what happened when i was in Rebirth then.
Well your killboard certainly doesn't show much steamrolling. And Marmite existed back then, did you steamroll them?

NightmareX wrote:
Yes, Rebirth as a corp is just sleeping while the core group that is Rebirth is just active under another corp. If Rebirth haven't gone inactive, then none of us would leave the corp either. Once Rebirth, always Rebirth. Not only that, the fact that Rebirth goes inactive from time to time is normal. It have gone inactive and come back alot of times, thus Rebirth as a corp is just sleeping.
So if rebirth still exist, are you or are you not elite PvPers?

NightmareX wrote:
Well, it's up to you now if you want me to prove you those things. If you expect me to prove you think, then you have to prove me those things i have been asking for earlier before i will apply to your request.
lol no, it's not. It really doesn't work that way. You can't make an outrageous claim then demand that other people prove something totally unrelated for you to prove it. You're doing that to try to change the subject because you can't prove anything. The killboard proves you were ****, so you are making up stories to make yourself sound big, but you're not. You're a little loser from a loser corp of crying whiners that disbanded. Good job kiddo.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#231 - 2014-08-05 19:45:11 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
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LUCAS KELL VS. NIGHTMARE X:

SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!

Will the might of Ex-Rebirth triumph, or will the ELITE PVP from Nullsec prove unbeatable?

Tickets on sale now, 10m isk per capsuleer!

Proceeds go to the Erotica1 foundation.


Seriously, I would fly to the ends of new eden to witness it.
Only 1 problem. I've never claimed to be an elite PvPer, so bringing an industry pilot to a fight really woundn't end well, although they did give the procurer a boost.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#232 - 2014-08-05 19:46:33 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
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LUCAS KELL VS. NIGHTMARE X:

SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!

Will the might of Ex-Rebirth triumph, or will the ELITE PVP from Nullsec prove unbeatable?

Tickets on sale now, 10m isk per capsuleer!

Proceeds go to the Erotica1 foundation.


Seriously, I would fly to the ends of new eden to witness it.
Only 1 problem. I've never claimed to be an elite PvPer, so bringing an industry pilot to a fight really woundn't end well, although they did give the procurer a boost.


Lol, come on man, it would be epic.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#233 - 2014-08-05 19:49:47 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Lol, come on man, it would be epic.
It's a really long flight for such disappointing combat. I think I'll stick to null.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#234 - 2014-08-05 19:52:34 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Lol, come on man, it would be epic.
It's a really long flight for such disappointing combat. I think I'll stick to null.


:(

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#235 - 2014-08-05 19:55:04 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
No, I'm claiming that me goign back looking through all your kills will only show me alliances and corps that no longer exist. You could go thouh though and undoubtedly alliances and corps that you forced to disband will generally stick in your mind. You can then work on proving it.

It's not possible to do that as we have forgotten the names on those corps years ago. Therefor you are asking an impossible question. But hey, if you still think it's easy to do, then it must be easy for you to prove that you never got killed by Rebirth to.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Well your killboard certainly doesn't show much steamrolling. And Marmite existed back then, did you steamroll them?

You don't know how many wars or what we did in Rebirth back then, so you can't decide on how we did against other corps and alliances by looking at kills. You have to look at the whole picture in the end on what happened. Heck, even alot of corps even surrendered to us by paying us a huge amount of isk.

Lucas Kell wrote:
So if rebirth still exist, are you or are you not elite PvPers?

We that are ex-Rebirth are pretty good at what we do, so we aren't exactly bad at empire PVP. However, as you think the status Rebirth have applies to Marmite to, then no. Marmite as they are are considered good at doing mercenary works. I'm not saying we are very good at PVPing as a whole team together. The thing is that we gets our jobs done very good independent on how good or bad our members are in PVP.

Lucas Kell wrote:
lol no, it's not. It really doesn't work that way. You can't make an outrageous claim then demand that other people prove something totally unrelated for you to prove it. You're doing that to try to change the subject because you can't prove anything. The killboard proves you were ****, so you are making up stories to make yourself sound big, but you're not. You're a little loser from a loser corp of crying whiners that disbanded. Good job kiddo.

Alright, so we can both agree that if you don't want to bring me evidences, then you can't expect someone else or me to give you evidences back.

Can we just move on then?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Eyrun Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#236 - 2014-08-05 20:19:36 UTC
Oh look, another NightmareX vs Lucas Kell posting marathon.

I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#237 - 2014-08-05 20:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
NightmareX wrote:
It's not possible to do that as we have forgotten the names on those corps years ago. Therefor you are asking an impossible question. But hey, if you still think it's easy to do, then it must be easy for you to prove that you never got killed by Rebirth to.
OK, so it's impossible to prove. Kinda like it being a complete lie then.
Since you have now claimed it's impossible, here's some nice info.

So Rebirth have been at war and actually scored kills on the following alliances/corps:
Black Legion.
Brothers of Tangra
Cabal of Reputable and Awes...
Catastrophic Uprising
Defiance Enterprises
Empire Controll
Fidelas Constans
Game 0f Tears
Goonswarm Federation
High Rollers And Game Changers
Imperial Hull Tankers
Insidious Empire
Limitless Inc.
Mentally Assured Destruction
Northern Associates.
Nulli Secunda
Pandemic Legion
Reaper's Grin
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
Relentless Terrorism
Renegade Alliance
Resurrection Ninjas.
Righteous Immortal Pew
Shockwave Sovereign Industries
SOLAR FLEET
Test Friends Please Ignore
The Ditanian Alliance
The Marmite Collective
The Obsidian Front
The-Convocation
Tribal Band
Under the Wings of Fury
Yulai Federation
TAXU

Of those, the following are now disbanded:
Defiance Enterprises (War: July 2013, Closed: January 2014, Kills: 1)
Tribal Band (War: July 2013, Closed: February 2014, Kills: 1)
Shockwave Sovereign Industries (War: January 2013, Closed: June 2013, Kills: 15)
Reaper's Grin (War: January 2013, Closed: March 2014, Kills: 2)
Cabal of Reputable and Awes... (War: January 2013, Closed: July 2013, Kills: 1)
Limitless Inc. (War: January 2013, Closed: July 2014, Kills: 5)

So either you didn't cause any of them to disband, or they took a really really long time to figure out that you were too much for them.

And now I officially call bullshit.



NightmareX wrote:
You don't know how many wars or what we did in Rebirth back then, so you can't decide on how we did against other corps and alliances by looking at kills. You have to look at the whole picture in the end on what happened. Heck, even alot of corps even surrendered to us by paying us a huge amount of isk.
I can see from your stats that you didn't steamroll pretty much anyone. Certainly none of the merc corps.

NightmareX wrote:
We that are ex-Rebirth are pretty good at what we do, so we aren't exactly bad at empire PVP. However, as you think the status Rebirth have applies to Marmite to, then no. Marmite as they are are considered good at doing mercenary works. I'm not saying we are very good at PVPing as a whole team together. The thing is that we gets our jobs done very good independent on how good or bad our members are in PVP.
You seem to be pretty bad, and since it's clear you were lying about Rebirth before, it's not a surprise you're lying here.

NightmareX wrote:
Alright, so we can both agree that if you don't want to bring me evidences, then you can't expect someone or me to give you evidences back.
I don't need your evidence any more. I've proven categorically you're a lying sack of **** above.

Oh, and PS, this still makes no sense. Me proving that I haven't been killed by you has nothing to do with you proving your exaggerated claims of greatness. Check my killboard if you think I have though.

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Delucian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#238 - 2014-08-05 20:36:58 UTC
Countdown to thread lock ...10....9....
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#239 - 2014-08-05 20:37:49 UTC
BOOM!

Lucas Kell with the right-cross-to-uppercut combo!!

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#240 - 2014-08-05 20:39:19 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
OK, so it's impossible to prove. Kinda like it being a complete lie then.
Since you have now claimed it's impossible, here's some nice info.

So Rebirth have been at war and actually scored kills on the following alliances/corps:
Black Legion.
Brothers of Tangra
+ a bunch of alliances where most of them doesn't have with empire PVP forces to do.

Of those, the following are now disbanded:
Defiance Enterprises (War: July 2013, Closed: January 2014, Kills: 1)
+ a bunch of alliances who didn't got dispanded while Rebirth was active back in 2012.

So either you didn't cause any of them to disband, or they took a really really long time to figure out that you were too much for them.

And now I officially call bullshit.

And now to the suprise. How many of those alliances as you linked to first are from empire PVP forces?

Oh snap. 1 or 2?

I'm talking about the corps and alliances that was living and PVPing in empire that we have been fighting and such.

And secondly, go back to 2012 bro. It was back then when we managed to dispand the corps and stuffs i'm talking about, and not in 2013 or 2014. They was dispanded when Rebirth as a corp was active in 2012. And thirdly, it was very few alliances that dispanded because of us. It was mostly corps who wasn't wealthy that got dispanded.

And lastly, we was a little active in 2013 to, but we was never as successfull there or as active there as we was in 2012.

Lucas Kell wrote:
I can see from your stats that you didn't steamroll pretty much anyone. Certainly none of the merc corps.

See the first quote. You simply did a poor job there when you came out with that, which doesn't even belongs to when Rebirth was active.

Lucas Kell wrote:
You seem to be pretty bad, and since it's clear you were lying about Rebirth before, it's not a surprise you're lying here.

You opinions never seems to stops do they?

Lucas Kell wrote:
I don't need your evidence any more. I've proven categorically you're a lying sack of **** above.

Oh, and PS, this still makes no sense. Me proving that I haven't been killed by you has nothing to do with you proving your exaggerated claims of greatness. Check my killboard if you think I have though.

See quite 1. You didn't prove anything. You didn't even find the corps or alliances we managed to dispand when we was active.

Come back when you are more educated in EVE.

Leto Thule wrote:
BOOM!

Lucas Kell with the right-cross-to-uppercut combo!!


Read my post over to him.

Opsie much?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama