Crime & Punishment

But experience isn't everything. Lack of experience doesn't automatically make your opinion worth less, and a wealth of experience doesn't make your opinion worthless. Ali Aras is one of the better CSM members we've had and yet had less than a years experience when running for CSM8.

A noob could have an opinion that he will once day mine a battleship worth of materials and build his own ship, something very achievable, while a veteran player may have the opinion that his hasbeen group steamrolled "everyone in empire". The age or experience of the character isn't the only thing that matters.

Overall though, I don't claim to know everything about highsec PvP, but I certainly have enough experience of empire combat and EVE in general to know what I'm talking about and know when people are talking ****. I don't claim that Marmite are the worst at everything, they just aren't the elite PvPers that some of you claim to be, at least not in the traditional sense of the term. You have a particular way you (as a group) choose to fight (most of the time, not necessarily all of it) which suits your playstyle, and that's fine.

NightmareX though talks out of his ass, constantly, and in doing so creates a reaction which reflects badly on your whole group. How can you really expect people to talk straight with you guys when you've got an ex-afterbirth member claiming to have "steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire", and when the goto move when speaking with some of your members is chestbeating and smacktalking?

Perhaps we all need to take a breath and step back a bit.

Quite funny that you still think we in Marmite are elite at PVP when i infact never have said that. I have said that we are elite at being mercs. Aka doing our contract jobs and so on.

I did however said that Rebirth as a corp was elite at doing empire PVP back when it was active. This is something you think that still exists today in Marmite just because there are some ex-Rebirth members here. Ex-Rebirth members joined Marmite earlier and things have been improved since then, so it's just good that we are here in Marmite.


No i don't. I speaks with fully experience being in Rebirth and after seing what kind of effect our wars in empire had. You haven't and you haven't even been in Rebirth or don't even know how effective we was by doing empire wars.

I speaks out of experiences while you speaks out of your guesses / opinions about Rebirth. That's the differences here and that's what makes the conversation with you waste of time.

No, they really really don't.

TLDR: Marmite actually dunked this guy and now he's upset about it, trying to hurt their image by linking a fight that is not at all embarassing.

Over 100 RvB members in a fleet against a rag-tag group of random mercenary corps. Result is 70 kills for RvB vs 51 kills for the Mercs.

If this is your idea of dunked, OP, you need to get your head examined.

heh...

I like RVB. I like them a lot.

When at war with RVB I think of them as a sleeping dragon. They might loose a plenty of frigates at the start but at the end you will loose the isk war when they start creating their purple fleets.

When I got the call to join in and saw just about every merc corp and their uncle joining in I deicded not to. I knew logistically this is not going to work. To many chiefs that wants to do things their way.

Good luck though, I fully expect a lot more expensive kills credited to RVB.

Or he just finds it funny like the rest of us...

8.92B isk to 1.99B isk (81.74% Efficiency). Certainly reads like a dunk. And supposedly these mercenaries are professionals at what they do, who only recruit competent PvPers, while RvB are made up of anyone that applies. So I guess it must be in the wording.

You never know, those might have turned the whole battle around if you'd brought them!

Nope! I will not rest until his proves his absolutely ludicrous claims. Once he does that, I'll rest. Cos it's funny.

Only if you can prove it that it's actually easy to go 2 and a half years back to try and remember the names on those corps that is long gone / dispanded?

If it's that easy for us to prove such a thing, then it's as easy for you to prove it that we didn't dispand those.


'Most' are still not everyone. Read what i'm writing. And yes, Rebirth have been fighting Marmite back when Rebirth was active. We did all well against them as they wasn't that good back then as Marmite are today.

But again, most is not everyone as you claim.


If you can prove it that it's actually easy to go 2 and a half years back to try and remember the names on those corps that is long gone / dispanded, sure i will hand out the names on those corps that dispanded because of us.


Not as a corp, but as a core group. We still have an active Rebirth facebook page that is invite only where we per today are talking about maybe brining Rebirth back. If you don't believe me, i can show you a little picture of that.


In the same way as you lie because your opinions is false and are all because of you anger because Rebirth touched you in a very special place that made lil Lucas to cry.

If you deny that Rebirth didn't spank you in some ways, then it's all lies until you (or any of your alts) can prove it that you wasn't spanked by Rebirth some years ago.

Ahh, you see where this is going right?

If you shoot, i'll shoot back.

Should be pretty easy. I imagine that to make them disband, you must have killed them, so they will be on your killboard with at the very least hundreds of billions in deaths.

The word you used was everyone. Read your own dman quote. Go ahead, read it. i'l even put it here again for you to miss the word everyone.
"We had steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire"
Can you read that now? Is it clear enough? You steamrolled everyone with fighting power. So you must have steamrolled Marmite, right?

A little picture of your Rebith fun club? No, I'm good, I imagine that exists. That doesn't change the fact that you previously said you were a group within marmite rather than just being marmites, yet now yo turned that around.

Lol, Again you go way off on a tangent, trying to attack me rather than argue the point.
Stop talking **** or prove that what you are saying is real. It's that simple mate. If you can't prove it, it's because you are a lying sack of ****. Honestly, I don't care if you want to, but every time you start harping on about how good rebirth were and how good you must be because you are ex-rebirth, I'll call you out on it every single time. Some little brat bleating on about how epic he is, yet being able to show nothing to prove it is ALWAYS going to be funny.

Its turning into a brother sister kind of fight, he said she said, I'll let you two decide who's the girl.

Then it's as easy for you to look up our killboard and look after some corps we have on our killboard and then look them up ingame to see if they are dispanded.

Now you have a challenge, go. Now you can prove yourself in a very easy way.


And those we was fighting that was a PVP force is far from everyone that we was fighting. We was fighting all types of corps and alliances. So yes, the fact that we actually steamrolled ALL PVP forces in empire back then are all true. But that doesn't mean we dispanded all of them. We dispanded some more weaker corporations that went bankrupt because we did more damage to them than they could gain isk.


Ahh ok, so you are admittedly confirming in public here now that you don't want to see the facts as that would make you look like an idiot. Nice damage control there bro.


Do you want me to prove you those things?

Alright, but you have to prove me some other things first that i have been asking after longer up. If you denies to prove those things, then don't expect others to prove things back to you. Otherwise you are just ignorant.