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Marmite Gets Dunked on by RVB

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#181 - 2014-08-05 16:11:44 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
So lead on with your proof of all of this. You know, like you "steamrolling" empire, which I might add included Marmite and many of the other merc corps that exist today. Did you steamroll all of them too? We'll ask them. Hey, you other mercs and while we're here, all highsec PvPers. Do you all remember being steamrolled by afterbirth?

Read over on why you aren't exactly good at reading bro. You aren't really genious either.

That's all i have to say.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#182 - 2014-08-05 16:12:32 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Nice attempt at damage control but my points are valid you just seem either unable/Can't answer them or know I am right.

As to my first statement in that last post it is my opinion and first hand experience of them I was not defending anybody.

And the rest of your post is just mumbling nothing else.
Uhh, no, I legitimately did not see a point to answer. Perhaps your could rephrase the point you wish me to answer here, and I'll give it a go.


Seriously! Lucas I know this is a sandbox game but you really need to dig your head out of the sand once in a while.

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#183 - 2014-08-05 16:13:33 UTC
Page 9 and no round 2? All of you quit posturing, get in ships, undock and fight.

I get 3 pages as the adrenaline seaps out, but at this point a select few of you are turning a wonderful engagement into garbage. Pew pew and fun was had. Please shut it until round 2 results are in.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#184 - 2014-08-05 16:16:01 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Page 9 and no round 2? All of you quit posturing, get in ships, undock and fight.

I get 3 pages as the adrenaline seaps out, but at this point a select few of you are turning a wonderful engagement into garbage. Pew pew and fun was had. Please shut it until round 2 results are in.

Yup, i'm all waiting for round 2 which i believe will be pretty epic. My new ship is already built and are ready for action.

Lucas Kell is just butthurt that a seriously bad, horrible and ****** alliance like Marmite is better than his alliance.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#185 - 2014-08-05 16:19:07 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Let me just quote you on this that you just said:

Lucas kell wrote:
yet according to NightmareX, they beat every single high sec PvP group to the point that most of them disbanded
OK, so where in that did i say "everyone disbanded"? I highlighted the word you seem to have missed.

NightmareX wrote:
So those we was fighting in empire is suddenly everyone in empire?
Uhhh....
NightmareX wrote:
We had steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire
So you claimed to have beaten everyone in empire, and disbanded "alot" of them. Is that not true? Is that not what you claimed?

NightmareX wrote:
Yeah through all of the years we was active yeah. But that's not the point. The point is still that many of those we was fighting gave up on fighting us because they had no ways of winning against us. So surrendering to not fight us is not dispanding a corp or alliance incase you still haven't figured this out yet.
Prove it.
Prove that you "steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire". Prove that "Alot of alliances / corps in empire have dispanded because of Rebirth.". Prove that "Rebirth went inactive because no one wanted to fight us.".

You can't You're trying to go back on what you've previously stated because you know you were making it up. Your claims would mean that you beat every single empire merc and every single empire PvP corporation and alliance, to the point that not a single group would still fight you. It's total and utter bollocks.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#186 - 2014-08-05 16:21:34 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Nice attempt at damage control but my points are valid you just seem either unable/Can't answer them or know I am right.

As to my first statement in that last post it is my opinion and first hand experience of them I was not defending anybody.

And the rest of your post is just mumbling nothing else.
Uhh, no, I legitimately did not see a point to answer. Perhaps your could rephrase the point you wish me to answer here, and I'll give it a go.
Seriously! Lucas I know this is a sandbox game but you really need to dig your head out of the sand once in a while.
So is that a no, you aren't going to let me know what these "points" are?

It's a simple question bro, and in no way a trick. If you wanted something answered, I didn't see it and it certainly had no question marks, but by all means let me know what it was and I'll answer it.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#187 - 2014-08-05 16:24:10 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Nice attempt at damage control but my points are valid you just seem either unable/Can't answer them or know I am right.

As to my first statement in that last post it is my opinion and first hand experience of them I was not defending anybody.

And the rest of your post is just mumbling nothing else.
Uhh, no, I legitimately did not see a point to answer. Perhaps your could rephrase the point you wish me to answer here, and I'll give it a go.
Seriously! Lucas I know this is a sandbox game but you really need to dig your head out of the sand once in a while.
So is that a no, you aren't going to let me know what these "points" are?

It's a simple question bro, and in no way a trick. If you wanted something answered, I didn't see it and it certainly had no question marks, but by all means let me know what it was and I'll answer it.


I asked you to show or explain your personal experience of the subject that formulated your opinion, ie: High sec pvp.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#188 - 2014-08-05 16:24:21 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Lucas Kell is just butthurt that a seriously bad, horrible and ****** alliance like Marmite is better than his alliance.
lol, there's really no way to compare high sec groups with null groups as their objectives differ so greatly, so no, I'm not in the least bit butthurt over your ganker alliance. This is just another attempt at you moving the subject off of you having claimed rebirth has defeated everyone in empire because you know you've left yourself no wiggle room when you were making **** up.

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#189 - 2014-08-05 16:25:47 UTC
And there we go again. Someone please pod me..... never mind, to late.What?

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#190 - 2014-08-05 16:29:12 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
OK, so where in that did i say "everyone disbanded"? I highlighted the word you seem to have missed.

You said most that's not even remotely correct. I said we managed to dispand some few corps and alliances through the years we was fighting in empire. 'Some' is not most.

Again, your reading skills are horrible / terribad.

Lucas Kell wrote:
So you claimed to have beaten everyone in empire, and disbanded "alot" of them. Is that not true? Is that not what you claimed?

Again, your reading skills are worser than a 3 year old kid. I said we steamrolled and made most of those WE was fighting (and those we was fighting is far from being most in empire) to stop fighting us. Where in the line of 'those we was fighting at that time' is that you don't understand?

I said we was superior to many of our opponents in empire, but i never said that we dispanded most of them. I said we dispanded some corps and alliances through the years when we was active in empire doing empire wars.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Prove it.
Prove that you "steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire". Prove that "Alot of alliances / corps in empire have dispanded because of Rebirth.". Prove that "Rebirth went inactive because no one wanted to fight us.".

You can't You're trying to go back on what you've previously stated because you know you were making it up. Your claims would mean that you beat every single empire merc and every single empire PvP corporation and alliance, to the point that not a single group would still fight you. It's total and utter bollocks.

Or maybe should you prove it that we didn't do that as it's you that claims we didn't. I say we did it because i was part of Rebirth when we did manage to dispand some corps and alliances. You are just to freaking scared to figure out yourself that i'm right about what i'm saying because you would be to embarrassed to prove your self that you are wrong.

Not only that, but i have peoples here that can confirm what i'm saying here while you have your own inflated opinion about what happened. Not hard to figure out who are right here.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#191 - 2014-08-05 16:34:28 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
I asked you to show or explain your personal experience of the subject that formulated your opinion, ie: High sec pvp.
Oh I see. Well most of my highsec PvP is done on spies, so not really much to show without burning alts. I've been on marmite fleets though :D

But no, overall I probably don't have the wealth of experience in highsec PvP that someone like yourself has, but then does that make my opinion worth any less? I'm not a chef either, but I can tell if I go to a restaurant and the meal is ****.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#192 - 2014-08-05 16:35:34 UTC
NightmareX wrote:


Again, your reading skills are horrible.


NightmareX wrote:

Again, your reading skills are worser than a 3 year old kid.


LULZ

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Delucian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#193 - 2014-08-05 16:36:35 UTC
Pointless arguing is pointless.

Lets dance! Twisted
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#194 - 2014-08-05 16:38:19 UTC
Delucian wrote:
Pointless arguing is pointless.

Lets dance! Twisted

Ok, as for the dancing and then for the question in that gif when it's about the fight against you: http://i.imgur.com/pvN0G.gif

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#195 - 2014-08-05 16:39:17 UTC
Delucian wrote:
Pointless arguing is pointless.

Lets dance! Twisted


Delucian, dont you see?

The thread no longer is about Marmite vs RvB. It is about Rebirth and if they were/were not terribad or conquerors of known hisec.

Duh.

Straight

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Rejuice K
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2014-08-05 16:45:35 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Page 9 and no round 2? All of you quit posturing, get in ships, undock and fight.

I get 3 pages as the adrenaline seaps out, but at this point a select few of you are turning a wonderful engagement into garbage. Pew pew and fun was had. Please shut it until round 2 results are in.

Yup, i'm all waiting for round 2 which i believe will be pretty epic. My new ship is already built and are ready for action.

Lucas Kell is just butthurt that a seriously bad, horrible and ****** alliance like Marmite is better than his alliance.



No less then last night where we defended (repped) the pocos they put into reinforcement, we chased a marmite fleet back to uedema, they had a bigger fleet with way bigger ships then us and yet they didnt fight us, they have surely had a chance for round 2 without taking it :)
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#197 - 2014-08-05 16:47:43 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
You said most that's not even remotely correct. I said we managed to dispand some few corps and alliances through the years we was fighting in empire. 'Some' is not most.
LOL, you didn't say "some" or "a few" though, did you? You said "alot". Perhaps "most" was a slight exaggeration, but it certainly isn't like you claiming you disbanded a couple then me claiming you said "all", so don;t even try that ****.

I tell you what, how many alliances and corps would you say you forced to disband? Give a definitive answer here, and we'll use that going forward.

NightmareX wrote:
Again, your reading skills are worser than a 3 year old kid. I said we steamrolled and made most of those WE was fighting (and those we was fighting is far from being most in empire) to stop fighting us. Where in the line of 'those we was fighting at that time' is that you don't understand?
No, that's not at ALL what you said. Read the quote which is your words exactly:
"We had steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire"

Those are your words.

NightmareX wrote:
Or maybe should you prove it that we didn't do that as it's you that claims we didn't. I say we did it because i was part of Rebirth when we did manage to dispand some corps and alliances. You are just to freaking scared to figure out yourself that i'm right about what i'm saying because you would be to embarrassed to prove your self that you are wrong.

Not only that, but i have peoples here that can confirm what i'm saying here while you have your own inflated opinion about what happened. Not hard to figure out who are right here.
So we're back to this. You make outrageous claims, and then demand that I prove you wrong, something which you know is basically impossible. That's like saying "I went to the moon once. Prove that I didn't!". The onus is on your to prove it because it your made up claims.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#198 - 2014-08-05 16:48:09 UTC
Rejuice K wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Page 9 and no round 2? All of you quit posturing, get in ships, undock and fight.

I get 3 pages as the adrenaline seaps out, but at this point a select few of you are turning a wonderful engagement into garbage. Pew pew and fun was had. Please shut it until round 2 results are in.

Yup, i'm all waiting for round 2 which i believe will be pretty epic. My new ship is already built and are ready for action.

Lucas Kell is just butthurt that a seriously bad, horrible and ****** alliance like Marmite is better than his alliance.



No less then last night where we defended (repped) the pocos they put into reinforcement, we chased a marmite fleet back to uedema, they had a bigger fleet with way bigger ships then us and yet they didnt fight us, they have surely had a chance for round 2 without taking it :)

But the real round 2 is coming soon™ Twisted.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#199 - 2014-08-05 16:49:02 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
I asked you to show or explain your personal experience of the subject that formulated your opinion, ie: High sec pvp.
Oh I see. Well most of my highsec PvP is done on spies, so not really much to show without burning alts. I've been on marmite fleets though :D

But no, overall I probably don't have the wealth of experience in highsec PvP that someone like yourself has, but then does that make my opinion worth any less? I'm not a chef either, but I can tell if I go to a restaurant and the meal is ****.


You forgot the null experience I have more than you as well, But i digress.

30 others also could say your talking rubbish the meal was wonderful and the restaurant marvelous! doesn't make their opinion wrong or yours it is down to experience.

So my point is, Talking a good game and actually playing it well is very different and in that context experience when it comes to opinions matter a lot.

I made you an offer some time ago to come join my corp and get first hand experience, The reason I did that was to put your opinion to the test and actually make your opinion have more credence when you talk about it.

An example of an opinion is that a month old char has an opinion that he can take down a Titan with a rifter but has no experience of Titans or null sec. Would you believe that opinion?
Delucian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#200 - 2014-08-05 16:55:16 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Delucian wrote:
Pointless arguing is pointless.

Lets dance! Twisted

Ok, as for the dancing and then for the question in that gif when it's about the fight against you: http://i.imgur.com/pvN0G.gif


LOL, Nightmare, but I was more thinking something like...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U8VrO_ydyCE