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Oh the humanity! Look what was done to this capsuleer!
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Big Gay Al
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-08-01 00:18:43 UTC
I've seen my share of griefing in EVE. My share of scams, ganks, cyberbullying, derps, aspy-fights, awoxes, welps and failcascades. But nothing quite prepared me for this intolerable abuse and wanton cruelty!

CCP, something must be done about this! Think of the children!
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-08-01 00:21:01 UTC
Wat™

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Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-08-01 00:32:19 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Wat™

This.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#4 - 2014-08-01 00:34:06 UTC
He trained Mining Upgrades to 5.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-08-01 00:35:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallowmere Rorschach
Ria Nieyli wrote:
He trained Mining Upgrades to 5.

Oh...well, if that's what we're picking at, I'd say it's an even bigger atrocity that it's in a "balanced" attribute map.
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-08-01 00:47:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Ria Nieyli wrote:
He trained Mining Upgrades to 5.


There is already a solution to this. Just keep podding him until it goes away. Blink

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Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-08-01 00:52:12 UTC
Ehhh, does Jade even play Eve anymore? I know he shut down his podcast about a year ago, and handed over control of the alliance he founded not too long afterward.
Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2014-08-01 00:57:14 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Ehhh, does Jade even play Eve anymore? I know he shut down his podcast about a year ago, and handed over control of the alliance he founded not too long afterward.


Sold

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Fix the Prospect!
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-08-01 01:16:06 UTC
Ahh, okay. I never bother looking at the character bazaar, so you'll have to forgive me for missing that.
Big Gay Al
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-08-01 01:29:08 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
He trained Mining Upgrades to 5.


There is already a solution to this. Just keep podding him until it goes away. Blink


Yes, as you can see, out of the kindness of my heart I offered a king's ransom to try to adopt this pitiful, tortured, neglected soul so I could do just that. As you say, there is no in-game recourse other than repeated alpha-clone poddings which can undo the damage that was done. But now I must turn to CCP for help.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-01 01:58:37 UTC
Haha, Tactical Shield Manipulation 5

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#12 - 2014-08-01 13:04:20 UTC
I trained tactical shield manipulation to 5. Is there a problem with that? It was missing a dot and didn't line up with all the others.

Is this the bleed through is better argument? If so.... isn't only training it to level 3 better than to level 4? If that's true it appears to be better to not train it at all. Max bleed through gives you max time where you have shield left.

Please teach me how you feel about this skill.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-08-01 14:20:25 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I trained tactical shield manipulation to 5. Is there a problem with that? It was missing a dot and didn't line up with all the others.

Is this the bleed through is better argument? If so.... isn't only training it to level 3 better than to level 4? If that's true it appears to be better to not train it at all. Max bleed through gives you max time where you have shield left.

Please teach me how you feel about this skill.


I'll bite. TSM IV gives you the T2 resist modules, so it's worth training. TSM V takes away the (very) marginal benefit of increased shield regen for a short time with no corresponding benefit, so training it is generally considered a waste.

IOW, there is literally no good reason (OCD is a personal problem, and not subject to game balance) to train TSM V, and one very marginal reason not to.

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#14 - 2014-08-01 20:40:14 UTC
Sure there is. Once you get so far up in SP, and that skill ends up being the lowest time to train skill, and all the other skills are refining skills; then you train it.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-08-04 16:42:19 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Sure there is. Once you get so far up in SP, and that skill ends up being the lowest time to train skill, and all the other skills are refining skills; then you train it.

Even if it weakens your armor tank?

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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#16 - 2014-08-05 16:18:20 UTC
I normally run an invul field and an energized adaptive nano membrane. This simple fitting trick removes the imaginary drawback of TSM being trained to 5.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-08-05 16:26:31 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I normally run an invul field and an energized adaptive nano membrane. This simple fitting trick removes the imaginary drawback of TSM being trained to 5.

So you waste a slot, in order to compensate for wasting days of training time? Shocked
Dungheap
DHCOx
#18 - 2014-08-05 16:40:39 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Sure there is. Once you get so far up in SP, and that skill ends up being the lowest time to train skill, and all the other skills are refining skills; then you train it.

Even if it weakens your armor tank?

it doesn't.. this was explained a long time ago by a dev , while ccp was fixing the tsm5 bug.
Samantha Floyd
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-08-05 17:16:44 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I normally run an invul field and an energized adaptive nano membrane. This simple fitting trick removes the imaginary drawback of TSM being trained to 5.

Tanking shield+armor, not the best way to seem correct in regards to an argument about ship fitting P