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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#161 - 2014-08-05 15:01:50 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
lol?

I do like how you were all like "Oh no! He's questioning rebirth and I have no evidence to back up my ludicrous claims! Find meme pictures quickly and change the subject!".

What about your ludicrous claims about us then without ANY evidences on that?
lol, like what?

Fact is mate, rebirth were crap, and that's why they died. Just check out their KB, not even a blip on what the modern day mercs have.

Zeus Maximo wrote:
Where are we at in this conversation?
We're at the place things normally end up at with NightmareX. Rebirth were the greatest and won highsec, but he can't find anything that proves this to be true so he keep asking me to "prove" random things, as if me being unable to prove things I've never said somehow covers for his lies.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#162 - 2014-08-05 15:04:27 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Where are we at in this conversation?
Back to the Lucas Kell look at me i am important show it would seem.
Lol? Please point out where exactly it is I claim to be important.

Claiming that rebirth were a bunch of nobodies isn't the same as claiming importance.

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Silet'kaa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#163 - 2014-08-05 15:09:26 UTC
I think it is funny how this thread went from being about MarmitevRvB to a pissing match about old mercs that apparently haven't let the past go.

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#164 - 2014-08-05 15:13:30 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Zeus Maximo wrote:
Where are we at in this conversation?
Back to the Lucas Kell look at me i am important show it would seem.
Lol? Please point out where exactly it is I claim to be important.

Claiming that rebirth were a bunch of nobodies isn't the same as claiming importance.


Rebirth were a good bunch of guys and good at what they did. You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between good and bad and that is where your opinions matter for nothing.

Whatever you reply will be 100% against what anybody else says that is understood. Until you have first hand experience of any of what you post against or your opinions of the subject then your opinions will be moot.
Zeus Maximo
Mentally Assured Destruction
#165 - 2014-08-05 15:24:51 UTC
Silet'kaa wrote:
I think it is funny how this thread went from being about MarmitevRvB to a pissing match about old mercs that apparently haven't let the past go.


Honestly it is a little more complicated than that. Some are trying to stick to topic, others are talking about the past, one is probing for war decs, and then the C&P newcomers are trying to make a forum presence.

I figure this thread will be in limbo until the next fight happens ;)

What will the merc field? Ishtars(or vexor navy's), aug navy's, BL geddons(cruises, neuts, and drones), or a arty/rail/beam t3 gang?

Will the mercs realize that in large fleets you dont fit points? Maybe the mercs will just go shield.....

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#166 - 2014-08-05 15:26:04 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, like what?

Fact is mate, rebirth were crap, and that's why they died. Just check out their KB, not even a blip on what the modern day mercs have.

Nice excuse bro. And did i tell you that this is your opinion?

Lucas Kell wrote:
Rebirth were the greatest and won highsec, but he can't find anything that proves this to be true so he keep asking me to "prove" random things, as if me being unable to prove things I've never said somehow covers for his lies.

I didn't said we won high sec. I said we was pretty good at what we did. Just because most corps or alliances didn't want to fight us anymore doesn't automaticly mean we won high sec. We was just extremely effective at doing our job.

You have a fetish of someone either being bad or simply be to good. You don't know that there exists a middlepoint / levels between that.

So because of that, your problem is that you will either call someone to be god at something (which is a bad thing to you), or they will just be horribly bad (which also is a bad thing to you).

You never have a point in that where someone can be good at all on something. You use that tactic to get away from the fact that you are trolling here and use that to call everyone you don't like to be bad.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#167 - 2014-08-05 15:34:23 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Rebirth were a good bunch of guys and good at what they did. You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between good and bad and that is where your opinions matter for nothing.

Whatever you reply will be 100% against what anybody else says that is understood. Until you have first hand experience of any of what you post against or your opinions of the subject then your opinions will be moot.
Good at what exactly? From looking around, Rebirth seemed to only be good at crying on the forums and disbanding, yet according to NightmareX, they beat every single high sec PvP group to the point that most of them disbanded, and everyone would refuse to fight. Due to the lack of fights Rebirth were forced to disband because everyone else was too scared. That must also include Marmite. Apparently you guys got much better with the introduction of rebirth guys, so thank god they came and joined you though.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#168 - 2014-08-05 15:37:29 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Nice excuse bro. And did i tell you that this is your opinion?
zKB stats are my opinion? I didn't realise that.

NightmareX wrote:
I didn't said we won high sec. I said we was pretty good at what we did. Just because most corps or alliances didn't want to fight us anymore doesn't automaticly mean we won high sec. We was just extremely effective at doing our job.
You stated that you caused many alliances to disband. You also claimed that the reason you disbanded is because you rand out of people to fight, because everyone was scared of you. Are you now going back on these claims?

NightmareX wrote:
You have a fetish of someone either being bad or simply be to good. You don't know that there exists a middlepoint / levels between that.
Totally wrong. I clearly have a middleground, since that's where I believe most people, marmite included, are placed. You simply won't accept the thought of being average. You want everyone to think "Wow! He's ex-rebirth!" like it's some kind of epic status, but it's not mate, it's just a random tag in your employment history.

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Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#169 - 2014-08-05 15:38:10 UTC
So to talk about something other than horrible pissing contests between irrelevant people, what plans are the Mercs making for further engagements? Obviously Tora took some lessons away from this one (or at least was validated in what he already knew so maybe the other folks will listen next time), but have you looked into coming up with a more cohesive fleet setup? Getting a bunch of independent-minded players from a bunch of different alliances that aren't used to working together and may even actively dislike each other to follow a specific fleet setup is probably asking too much, but if you could just get something as basic as "Bring long-ranged armor ships" it would probably do a lot to improve performance.

Oh, and some of those pilots might need a little course on "Fleet Fitting 101: Stop Stacking Sensor Boosters".
gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#170 - 2014-08-05 15:39:21 UTC
Sarah xCalibre wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Sarah xCalibre wrote:


Thank you for explaining your real life to me Im so interested and actually points to me actually having a point in my post, why the need to be so defensive if else?

God you guys are easy.



Delusional people tend to read thing where they are not written. You should go see a doctor. No where I have been defensive in my posting, so much that I even got a warning earlier for being too offensive ...

Morty Friedman wrote:

See you prove my point again you carry on back chatting because your so hurt.

NEED A BIGGER TEAR JAR


How can I prove your point if you have not yet made a single point in this whole thread? Why a tear jar if we are not crying, why would we be crying.. we are paid dozens of billions per week just to kill people in high sec, we have an over 99% efficiency. We collect another few billion isk in shiny loot every week... We have people from self called PVP corps come at our TS to sing so we drop the war on them.. we play only the most fun PVP in eve.. the small scale one and we are basically undefeated on that... I get paid to make people look dumb in forum threads .. ( and clients are always pleased)...

if anyone is crying in this game.. is not us.


Wait a min Im the delusional one?
You got a 99% effieciency, maybe its cause you to 99% fight pve ships. Boasting about how you are small gang warfare, you got no clue what small gang warfare is, small gang is to actually take your gang up against other pvpers in pvp ships and guess what, they arent in highsec. Its so fun to see how you go on about how you are all pvp then sit and complain about game mechanincs aking it so hard for you to use your OOC pro oneiroses, must really suck being you really. If you are so pro maybe its time to move on and actully get fights instaed, oh wait you might actualy lose your ships then. Pro small gang warfare Alliance? More like small gang risk adverse ganks.

Ill await your wardec and the smallest show of any of you in Ishomilken, then Id welcome you to small gang warfare.


really need to do your research before running your mouth as you just make yourself look stupid, PoH has war dec'd nearly every merc corp and alliance and we cant help it if most wont fight us.
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#171 - 2014-08-05 15:41:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Rebirth were a good bunch of guys and good at what they did. You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between good and bad and that is where your opinions matter for nothing.

Whatever you reply will be 100% against what anybody else says that is understood. Until you have first hand experience of any of what you post against or your opinions of the subject then your opinions will be moot.
Good at what exactly? From looking around, Rebirth seemed to only be good at crying on the forums and disbanding, yet according to NightmareX, they beat every single high sec PvP group to the point that most of them disbanded, and everyone would refuse to fight. Due to the lack of fights Rebirth were forced to disband because everyone else was too scared. That must also include Marmite. Apparently you guys got much better with the introduction of rebirth guys, so thank god they came and joined you though.


I was talking about you! apart from the first statement. Therefore your opinion is moot as you cannot answer the rest.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#172 - 2014-08-05 15:50:33 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Rebirth were a good bunch of guys and good at what they did. You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between good and bad and that is where your opinions matter for nothing.

Whatever you reply will be 100% against what anybody else says that is understood. Until you have first hand experience of any of what you post against or your opinions of the subject then your opinions will be moot.
Good at what exactly? From looking around, Rebirth seemed to only be good at crying on the forums and disbanding, yet according to NightmareX, they beat every single high sec PvP group to the point that most of them disbanded, and everyone would refuse to fight. Due to the lack of fights Rebirth were forced to disband because everyone else was too scared. That must also include Marmite. Apparently you guys got much better with the introduction of rebirth guys, so thank god they came and joined you though.

Again, you shows it pretty good that you simply can't read.

Where did i say that we was fighting everyone in high sec so they all dispanded?

I have never said that. I have said that we have dispanded some corps and alliances in our active Rebirth days. But what i actually said was that we fought most PVP forces in empire so much and won so many fights against them that they simply gave up on fighting us in the end.

Giving up a fight is not dispanding if you though that, lol.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#173 - 2014-08-05 15:50:37 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
I was talking about you! apart from the first statement. Therefore your opinion is moot as you cannot answer the rest.
Yes, and I was responding to the first part. The second part was you just mumbling about how my opinions are moot because :reasons:. Believe it or not, you actually aren't the guy that decides who's opinions are valid.

I get that you want to leap in to defend your teammate, but seriously, go and read up some of the stuff he's been saying and you may want to reconsider. I mean you guys may as well be cannon fodder for the rebirth core group that still exists within Marmite correcting your inabilities to fit ships, FC fleets and fight empire wars.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#174 - 2014-08-05 15:54:18 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
I was talking about you! apart from the first statement. Therefore your opinion is moot as you cannot answer the rest.
Yes, and I was responding to the first part. The second part was you just mumbling about how my opinions are moot because :reasons:. Believe it or not, you actually aren't the guy that decides who's opinions are valid.

I get that you want to leap in to defend your teammate, but seriously, go and read up some of the stuff he's been saying and you may want to reconsider. I mean you guys may as well be cannon fodder for the rebirth core group that still exists within Marmite correcting your inabilities to fit ships, FC fleets and fight empire wars.

Pretty obvious that you aren't aware that Tora, kypp and Sol and many others in Marmite is all aware of who Rebirth is and what they have done through the years.

The fact that Tora, kypp and Sol alone knows this is a 3 (4 with me) vs 1 (you). So it's not hard to figure out who are wrong.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#175 - 2014-08-05 15:57:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
NightmareX wrote:
Again, you shows it pretty good that you simply can't read.

Where did i say that we was fighint everyone in high sec so they dispanded?

I have never said that. H ave said that we have dispanded some corps and alliances in our active Rebirth days. But what i actually said was that we fought most PVP forces in empire so much and won so many fights against them that they simply gave up.

Giving up a fight is not dispanding if you though that, lol.
I didn't say everyone disbanded, I said most, and that those who didn't disband refused to fight. And on we lead to the NightmareX quote hall of fame!

Here's you claiming you went inactive because everyone surrendered to you.
NightmareX wrote:
Yes, Rebirth some years ago was pretty epic. Why else do you think everybody did surrender to us in the end that made Rebirth go innactive in the end?

Yes, because we was epic and yes, elite at doing empire PVP. They didn't even wanted to have a fight with us in the end as they knew they was going to lose against us.


Here's you claiming again that you went inactive because you ran out of people to fight.
NightmareX wrote:
The proof is that Rebirth went inactive because no one wanted to fight us. Why would we close a corp if we was going to have tons of fights we love to fight?

Explain that, smartypants.


Probably my favourite, here's you claiming to have "steamrolled" everyone in empire.
NightmareX wrote:
No, we closed the corp because like i said earlier, we went out of war targets to fight. We had steamrolled everyone with fighting power in empire and they was not going to fight us again. They had already been fighting us several times before, but they gave up because we was superior in PVP to everyone we was fighting.


And last but not least, you claiming that "alot" of alliances and corps disbanded because of you:
NightmareX wrote:
We was professionals and elite at causing damage upon those we war dec'ed. Ofc we didn't care what we was killing as we only did care about how much damage we was doing to them. Alot of alliances / corps in empire have dispanded because of Rebirth.


So lead on with your proof of all of this. You know, like you "steamrolling" empire, which I might add included Marmite and many of the other merc corps that exist today. Did you steamroll all of them too? We'll ask them. Hey, you other mercs and while we're here, all highsec PvPers. Do you all remember being steamrolled by afterbirth?

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#176 - 2014-08-05 16:00:52 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
I was talking about you! apart from the first statement. Therefore your opinion is moot as you cannot answer the rest.
Yes, and I was responding to the first part. The second part was you just mumbling about how my opinions are moot because :reasons:. Believe it or not, you actually aren't the guy that decides who's opinions are valid.

I get that you want to leap in to defend your teammate, but seriously, go and read up some of the stuff he's been saying and you may want to reconsider. I mean you guys may as well be cannon fodder for the rebirth core group that still exists within Marmite correcting your inabilities to fit ships, FC fleets and fight empire wars.


Nice attempt at damage control but my points are valid you just seem either unable/Can't answer them or know I am right.

As to my first statement in that last post it is my opinion and first hand experience of them I was not defending anybody.

And the rest of your post is just mumbling nothing else.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#177 - 2014-08-05 16:03:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Lucas Kell wrote:
Even you have to admit, there's some truth to it though.
Yes, of course. I never denied us liking the trade hub undocks and the trade routes. But we do more then just that. The main problems are, most want to ignore it, don't see it or don't understand that its the place where most morons die before they even go into space. The rest gets killed when jumping into high sec with their juicy freighters Pirate

In the end I don't care where they get shot, as long as our clients are happy and return. And no, I am not going to have that discussion with you again. P

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Paranoid Loyd
#178 - 2014-08-05 16:05:00 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
afterbirth

Lol

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Fix the Prospect!
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#179 - 2014-08-05 16:05:43 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Nice attempt at damage control but my points are valid you just seem either unable/Can't answer them or know I am right.

As to my first statement in that last post it is my opinion and first hand experience of them I was not defending anybody.

And the rest of your post is just mumbling nothing else.
Uhh, no, I legitimately did not see a point to answer. Perhaps your could rephrase the point you wish me to answer here, and I'll give it a go.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#180 - 2014-08-05 16:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
I didn't say everyone disbanded, I said most, and that those who didn't disband refused to fight. And on we lead to the NightmareX quote hall of fame!

Here's you claiming you went inactive because everyone surrendered to you.

Let me just quote you on this that you just said:

Lucas kell wrote:
yet according to NightmareX, they beat every single high sec PvP group to the point that most of them disbanded

And surrendering to not fight us is not dispanding someone as you claim we did. The fact that most refused to fight us in the end is a fact. Why else would we dispand?

Would we dispand if we would have tons of fights to do?

Lucas Kell wrote:
Here's you claiming again that you went inactive because you ran out of people to fight.

Yup, running out of targets to fight because they refuse to fight us is again not the same as dispanding a corp or alliance.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Probably my favourite, here's you claiming to have "steamrolled" everyone in empire.

So those we was fighting in empire is suddenly everyone in empire?

Would you make up your mind?

Lucas Kell wrote:
And last but not least, you claiming that "alot" of alliances and corps disbanded because of you:

Yeah through all of the years we was active yeah. But that's not the point. The point is still that many of those we was fighting gave up on fighting us because they had no ways of winning against us. So surrendering to not fight us is not dispanding a corp or alliance incase you still haven't figured this out yet.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama