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Marmite Gets Dunked on by RVB

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Silet'kaa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
#41 - 2014-08-04 13:19:39 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
........they fight in NULL all the time and that's why they are far superior to any HS gate camping merc. ...


There are two things you need to take away here.

1) Gatecamping is still camping when its in NuLlSeC ( added alternating capitol letters to emphasize scariness ).

and

2) Hisec is provided as it is in order to provide a differing set of game mechanics. It does not produce PVP pilots of a lower caliber, such as you are suggesting.

Your first point made me nearly choke on my coffee.

Thanks for the laugh.


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Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#42 - 2014-08-04 13:20:12 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
........they fight in NULL all the time and that's why they are far superior to any HS gate camping merc. ...


There are two things you need to take away here.

1) Gatecamping is still camping when its in NuLlSeC ( added alternating capitol letters to emphasize scariness ).

and

2) Hisec is provided as it is in order to provide a differing set of game mechanics. It does not produce PVP pilots of a lower caliber, such as you are suggesting.


RvB roam they don't gate camp, they do daily NULL and Low Sec roams which anyone can see from their KB.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-08-04 13:23:44 UTC
Morty Friedman wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Morty Friedman wrote:
........they fight in NULL all the time and that's why they are far superior to any HS gate camping merc. ...


There are two things you need to take away here.

1) Gatecamping is still camping when its in NuLlSeC ( added alternating capitol letters to emphasize scariness ).

and

2) Hisec is provided as it is in order to provide a differing set of game mechanics. It does not produce PVP pilots of a lower caliber, such as you are suggesting.


RvB roam they don't gate camp, they do daily NULL and Low Sec roams which anyone can see from their KB.



He was not talking about RvB. He was talking about the leet nullsec boy that called high sec wars not PVP.

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#44 - 2014-08-04 13:23:50 UTC
Man, this thread. Let me inject some sanity by giving both GSE and marmite (and all the other mercs) props for taking the fight.

How did "all the mercs" end up involved on the same side of this war by the way? is it a contract or were you just collectively bored and decided to have some fun with us?
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#45 - 2014-08-04 13:25:17 UTC
Dilligafmofo wrote:
I spy yet another fleet engagement where the completely risk adverse Sol Epoch didn't attend. Why does anyone allow this pillock into their ranks?

I guess some things will never change. What?


As I am also a nobody reading this thread like you, I am wondering where he touched you so badly that made you cry out loud?
Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-08-04 13:29:23 UTC
Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:
Also why are you so biased op, Half that bs fleet was galactic skyfleet empire not just marmite.

Well I've never heard of galactic skyfleet empire and presumably marmite was hired by these industrial guys as "muscle" or experienced pvpers lmao. NOIR. would've been a better choice.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-08-04 13:36:48 UTC
Morty Friedman wrote:

RvB roam they don't gate camp, they do daily NULL and Low Sec roams which anyone can see from their KB.


Dude, just apply. You dont need to get on their nutz on the forums to get in.

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#48 - 2014-08-04 13:37:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Most mercs have very good relations with GSE and most of us will jump on any war they get. This is the first time all the mercs joined forces with GSE and even dropped some wars between us. This alone, for me personally, is worth a victory dance Pirate. I watched the 45 min youtube, made by one of the RvB guys and loved it! I didn't care much about losing a bs. I had a lot of fun doing so. More then killing a freighter full of loot.

We have learned our lessons from round 1, but this isnt over yet Twisted. Remember, all the RvB wars Marmites had so far, we won against RvB. And I think most of the other mercs did too. But we did that in our own way of fighting and not against RvB fleets, as we know that's where RvB's strength is. Many of you have been telling how unfair it is and now we finally take RvB on fleet vs fleet and you still cry about it. This post should be "YES, GREAT!!, finally you have a nice fleet fight with RvB.

And please give the rest of the fleet some good credit. This wasn't Marmites vs RvB. Most of them were GSE and almost all other respected highsec mercenary alliance joined in.

https://zkillboard.com/war/375442/

https://zkillboard.com/war/375444/

I think we killed many more then RvB did, but our ships were just a bit more expensive Cry

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#49 - 2014-08-04 13:39:05 UTC
Cherry Yeyo wrote:
Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:
Also why are you so biased op, Half that bs fleet was galactic skyfleet empire not just marmite.

Well I've never heard of galactic skyfleet empire and presumably marmite was hired by these industrial guys as "muscle" or experienced pvpers lmao. NOIR. would've been a better choice.
Noir would probably scammed them as they scam most other clients. Besides, they are to scared to come to highsec. We tried to get a fight with them a few weeks here, they stayed logged off. Cry Noir...lol !Big smile

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#50 - 2014-08-04 13:41:32 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Most mercs have very good relations with GSE and most of us will jump on any war they get. This is the first time all the mercs joined forces with GSE and even dropped some wars between us. This alone, for me personally, is worth a victory dance Pirate. I watched the 45 min youtube, made by one of the RvB guys and loved it! I didn't care much about losing a bs. I had a lot of fun doing so. More then killing a freighter full of loot.

We have learned our lessons from round 1, but this isnt over yet Twisted. Remember, all the RvB wars Marmites had so far, we won against RvB. And I think most of the other mercs did too. But we did that in our own way of fighting and not against RvB fleets, as we know that's where RvB's strength is. Many of you have been telling how unfair it is and now we finally take RvB on fleet vs fleet and you still cry about it. This post should be "YES, GREAT!!, finally you have a nice fleet fight with RvB.

And please give the rest of the fleet some good credit. This wasn't Marmites vs RvB. Most of them were GSE and almost all other respected highsec mercenary alliance joined in.

https://zkillboard.com/war/375442/

https://zkillboard.com/war/375444/


Why are all the mercs friendly with GSE? Genuinely curious, I had never heard of them before. Anyway, you're right that if you go back to your strengths you'll win this war too (isk wise anyway). I see it as a Darwinian process teaching our guys to be more aware of their surroundings.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#51 - 2014-08-04 13:45:27 UTC
That's not for me to say Blink. But for Marmites, Its because they supply me with Fedo's. We also had talks with a very respected 0.0 alliance who might have jumped in to this war, but that would probably escalated things Eve wide. And on your next question, no I can't Twisted

So far a BIG +1 to RvB for creating content and giving me a good time!

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gnshadowninja
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2014-08-04 13:54:22 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Most mercs have very good relations with GSE and most of us will jump on any war they get. This is the first time all the mercs joined forces with GSE and even dropped some wars between us. This alone, for me personally, is worth a victory dance Pirate. I watched the 45 min youtube, made by one of the RvB guys and loved it! I didn't care much about losing a bs. I had a lot of fun doing so. More then killing a freighter full of loot.

We have learned our lessons from round 1, but this isnt over yet Twisted. Remember, all the RvB wars Marmites had so far, we won against RvB. And I think most of the other mercs did too. But we did that in our own way of fighting and not against RvB fleets, as we know that's where RvB's strength is. Many of you have been telling how unfair it is and now we finally take RvB on fleet vs fleet and you still cry about it. This post should be "YES, GREAT!!, finally you have a nice fleet fight with RvB.

And please give the rest of the fleet some good credit. This wasn't Marmites vs RvB. Most of them were GSE and almost all other respected highsec mercenary alliance joined in.

https://zkillboard.com/war/375442/

https://zkillboard.com/war/375444/

I think we killed many more then RvB did, but our ships were just a bit more expensive Cry


Adding onto my previous statement, I believe (correct me if im wrong) this is possibly the first time so many mercenaries have come together against one big alliance so problems are expected at first :)

Like Tora says, props for bringing the fight and hope there is another
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#53 - 2014-08-04 13:57:06 UTC
Did anyone involved NOT have fun?
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2014-08-04 13:59:49 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Most mercs have very good relations with GSE and most of us will jump on any war they get. This is the first time all the mercs joined forces with GSE and even dropped some wars between us. This alone, for me personally, is worth a victory dance Pirate. I watched the 45 min youtube, made by one of the RvB guys and loved it! I didn't care much about losing a bs. I had a lot of fun doing so. More then killing a freighter full of loot.

We have learned our lessons from round 1, but this isnt over yet Twisted. Remember, all the RvB wars Marmites had so far, we won against RvB. And I think most of the other mercs did too. But we did that in our own way of fighting and not against RvB fleets, as we know that's where RvB's strength is. Many of you have been telling how unfair it is and now we finally take RvB on fleet vs fleet and you still cry about it. This post should be "YES, GREAT!!, finally you have a nice fleet fight with RvB.

And please give the rest of the fleet some good credit. This wasn't Marmites vs RvB. Most of them were GSE and almost all other respected highsec mercenary alliance joined in.

https://zkillboard.com/war/375442/

https://zkillboard.com/war/375444/


Why are all the mercs friendly with GSE? Genuinely curious, I had never heard of them before. Anyway, you're right that if you go back to your strengths you'll win this war too (isk wise anyway). I see it as a Darwinian process teaching our guys to be more aware of their surroundings.



They have good diplomats...

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2014-08-04 14:01:09 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Did anyone involved NOT have fun?


A poor 3rd part Vexor navy issue that crossed our fleet when we were killing a few RvB stragglers at new caldari..... I think he was not pleased...

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Morty Friedman
Mortal Logistics
#56 - 2014-08-04 14:04:03 UTC
Most 0.0 alliances have no interest in HS wars for the exact reason that a lot of mercs complain about in this thread. 0.0 corps won't be interested in even coming to HS; they can't bring their main ships into HS so it would be pointless for them. That's why I said fight RvB in NULL....

Tora you know full well what would happen if you took this war to NULL RvB are VERY respected in NULL so stating you had a 0.0 corp ready to jump in means nothing.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#57 - 2014-08-04 14:10:52 UTC
Morty Friedman wrote:
Most 0.0 alliances have no interest in HS wars for the exact reason that a lot of mercs complain about in this thread. 0.0 corps won't be interested in even coming to HS; they can't bring their main ships into HS so it would be pointless for them. That's why I said fight RvB in NULL....

Tora you know full well what would happen if you took this war to NULL RvB are VERY respected in NULL so stating you had a 0.0 corp ready to jump in means nothing.


Mate. You sure about that MATE?

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Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#58 - 2014-08-04 14:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
Alright, let's stop this pissing contest and agree that marmite and pursuit of happyness and the other mercs are good at what they do and RvB is good at what we do. I'm not counting on us being ahead ISK wise by the end of the week so let's calm our horses eh? It's not exactly a surprise that we're better at large scale engagements, we've gone and fought Euni and brave newbies enough time to have it down by now. Still, I fully expect to see a lot of face palming losses on our part once marmite and friends go back to doing what they do best.

Edit: which looking at the killboard a they're already doing. Mission ships and pods dying left and right. Why some thinks missioning while in RvB is a good idea, I still don't understand. We have an open door policy! Just drop corp and mission for a few days. Then if you don't want to wait the 7 days join the other side! (Rant over)
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#59 - 2014-08-04 14:21:58 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
You know, that seems to be the general opinion, but, I cannot say I have seen a great many of them proclaiming greatness. Marmite is what they are. And you know what? If I were ever to wardec someone, I would surely pay for their help. Why? Because they DO get those ridiculous freighter / industrial / blinged out autism chariot kills.

What was it that badass black assassin dude said in Serenity... "If your quarry goes to ground, leave no ground to go to.." (Yes, I know who really said it, but damn it, that guy was badass).

I know many people dislike Marmite for some odd or another. But do they really need a thread devoted to losing a fight? ****, maybe ill start posting a thread every time I get blapped.
The problem there is that it's blind luck if they get your target. I'd much rather pay for a merc corp that is going to ruthlessly hunt down my enemies than a group that might kill them if they happen to be undefended at one of their camps. If I wanted to blap dead easy kills in a hub, I've got alts and can generally shoot unarmed ships myself.

Bearing in mind if you are in high sec, you can defeat Marmite simply by using an NPC freighter when hauling in hubs or red-frog. A group that would actually hunt down a target would be unavoidable without swapping your mains to NPC corps themselves, and even then bumping and ganking could occur. Marmite leave plenty of ground. Like any system not in the Jita -> Amarr pipe.

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#60 - 2014-08-04 14:24:15 UTC
Lucas, can you keep this post on topic and not turn it in another 329048302984 Ohhh Evil Marmite post. Ugh

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