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Claud Tiberius

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#1 - 2014-08-02 03:03:05 UTC | Edited by: Claud Tiberius

I want to use a Typhoon Cruise Missile fit for PvP first and PvE second. It shouldn't be a solo fit. Small to Med fleets (Following or setting Doctrine is not an interest).

Targets T1 BS, BC and slow Cruisers.

Here is my idea: http://i.imgur.com/ef2RKSf.png?1

Note:
- That fit is in pyfa. Not EVE Fitting Tool. Thus ehp calculation is different.
- 623 dps with Fury Missiles.
- No drones are in the fit but there is room ofc.
- Cap runs out in roughly 2:23mins (when ignoring the Heavy Nosferatu).

Logic behind the madness:

- Heavy Nosferatu II is for sucking dry anything small that gets close (for PvP mainly).
- AB is for speed tanking against enemy missile ships and staying at max missile range.
- TP for assisting missile damage application.
- Sensor Booster, for max range on Fury missiles. Also useful for targeting.
- Tracking Disruptor for reducing the enemy turret range (for PvP mainly), thus forcing the enemy ship closer to the Phoons missile range.
- LMJD to get out of sticky situations, or to get into firing position.
- LAR to utilise the vast amount of spare cap and for active armour tank side.
- DC.
- BCS.
- Remaining modules for armour tank.
- Rigs to complement existing modules.

Issues:

- Missile DPS is lacking..
- Enough EHP at present?
- Still have some spare CPU/Power, which suggests the fit is not at its optimal.
- Heavy Nosferatu is it required? What should replace it, if anything?

What do you think?

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.

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Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#2 - 2014-08-02 05:33:20 UTC You shouldn't really need to force enemies closer when you're trying to snipe them at max missile range, so you can probably lose the TD. Triple pump, dual rep, cap booster imo. Oh god.

Claud Tiberius

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#3 - 2014-08-02 06:48:16 UTC

Riot Girl wrote:

You shouldn't really need to force enemies closer when you're trying to snipe them at max missile range, so you can probably lose the TD.

I forgot to mention, Fury missiles have a range of around 70-80km (off the top of my head).

Riot Girl wrote:

Triple pump, dual rep, cap booster imo.

Interesting.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.


Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#4 - 2014-08-02 12:29:11 UTC I don't get it, are trying to defend against being kited or trying to force brawlers into close range? If it's the latter, then why don't you just engage them at a closer range? Oh god.

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Lugia3 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,536	#5 - 2014-08-02 22:52:37 UTC Torps, scram/web, 3 1600mm plates, no armor rep, 100mn mwd, 2 eamn, 1 dc2, medium cap booster, 3 trimarks. Your current fit, imo, is terribad. "CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

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Ralph King-Griffin New Eden Tech Support Likes received: 21,564	#6 - 2014-08-02 23:02:41 UTC Lugia3 wrote: Torps, scram/web, 3 1600mm plates, no armor rep, 100mn mwd, 2 eamn, 1 dc2, medium cap booster, 3 trimarks. Your current fit, imo, is terribad. i have something similar lying around somewhere, i think its about time i went looking for it Murderers of Negotiable Motivations =]\|[=


Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#7 - 2014-08-02 23:15:46 UTC \| Edited by: Riot Girl nvm Oh god.


Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#8 - 2014-08-03 00:52:41 UTC I don't like plates on a typhoon that thing can be fast as hell. Oh god.

Claud Tiberius

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#9 - 2014-08-03 06:02:53 UTC | Edited by: Claud Tiberius

Lugia3 wrote:

Torps, scram/web, 3 1600mm plates, no armor rep, 100mn mwd, 2 eamn, 1 dc2, medium cap booster, 3 trimarks.

Your current fit, imo, is terribad.

Why is it terribad?

Do you use Torps in pve? I find that those fits are near suicide because of the numbers of npcs who will crowd all around the ship, jamm, and destroy it. Unless its in a fleet, which is ok. But CM are easier, you can avoid most of the damage, kill the Npcs in decent timing all of it solo.

Riot Girl wrote:

I don't get it, are trying to defend against being kited or trying to force brawlers into close range? If it's the latter, then why don't you just engage them at a closer range?

Its about dictating how far apart the two ships will be. CM don't have very long range compared to Hybrids/Projectiles. So using the turret disruptor you bring them in closer. And as they get closer, the more effective the TP will become.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.

Riot Girl

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#10 - 2014-08-03 06:17:56 UTC | Edited by: Riot Girl

Claud Tiberius wrote:

[Its about dictating how far apart the two ships will be. CM don't have very long range compared to Hybrids/Projectiles. So using the turret disruptor you bring them in closer. And as they get closer, the more effective the TP will become.

You can move away from them. Besides, you'd have to waste slots on sebos.

Oh god.


Claud Tiberius Likes received: 123	#11 - 2014-08-03 06:35:42 UTC \| Edited by: Claud Tiberius But if I move away i'll be out of missile range (edit precision missiles) :p The hell is a sebo? nvm I got it Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.


Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack Likes received: 3,946	#12 - 2014-08-03 06:56:36 UTC It's just a thing, nvm. Oh god.

Riot Girl

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#13 - 2014-08-03 08:58:04 UTC

I made an error when I mentioned pumps, I meant nanobot things.

Here's a probably okay sniping gang fit;

[Typhoon, 3 seashells]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

100MN Afterburner II
Warp Disruptor II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Nanobot Accelerator II
Large Nanobot Accelerator II
Large Nanobot Accelerator I

Oh god.

Deerin

East Trading Co Ltd

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#14 - 2014-08-03 09:10:04 UTC

Heavy Nosferatus won't suck dry anything close. What you need for that is a Heavy Neut.
No point in having two 800mm t2 plates. Put a 1600mm and use the remaining slot for something else. A BCS maybe
You'll need a cap booster somewhere in there. Ditch the sebo(sensor booster), put a cap booster.
Screw the TD. Enemies will hit you. You are a battleship. Put something else there (another tp)
There is no reason to not to use ancillary repper there to provide better burst rep. When you use ancilary reps, nanobots are meaningless. You should go for aux nano pumps.
Using aux thrusters and plates is counterproductive. Put another auxnano pump to boost your rep.

So you end up with:
[Typhoon, Phoony]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile

Large Anti-Explosive Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

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Marc Durant Likes received: 193	#15 - 2014-08-03 17:05:18 UTC This thread is one big "wtf". Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.


Claud Tiberius Likes received: 123	#16 - 2014-08-04 06:24:55 UTC :O They have 1600mm armor plates? I usually fly shield ships so ... its my first day Also the market tricked me :P Thanks for the advice guys. Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.

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Camper101 State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 1,148	#17 - 2014-08-05 07:47:31 UTC If you are still that new stay away from BS Hulls for Pew Pew. For a long time. :D 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000. My name is Hans. The "L" stands for danger.

Danny John-Peter

Blue Canary

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#18 - 2014-08-05 09:30:17 UTC

Good ******* lord, this thread.

Only decent solo Phoon I have seen is cruise/kite Phoon, it goes something like this;

[Typhoon, 420 noscope]
Internal Force Field Array I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Warp Disruptor II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Acolyte II x5
Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

Disclaimer;
Did not come up with this fit, tia Naoru.

Caleidascope

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

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#19 - 2014-08-05 13:23:05 UTC

Danny John-Peter wrote:

Looks to be pvp fit.

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Eat dessert first!


Danny John-Peter Blue Canary Watch This Likes received: 579	#20 - 2014-08-05 13:26:05 UTC Claud Tiberius wrote: I want to use a Typhoon Cruise Missile fit for PvP first Yes, yes it is.

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