EVE General Discussion

Long ago, it's reported that a person opposed to The New Order of Halaima (hereinafter "CODE." or "ganker") got involved in a Local Chat battle. Local Chat battles seem to very enjoyable events for CODE. members. They are something of a separate sport outside of piloting ships, it seems. If there is an intermission on the action, CODE. can often be counted on to do its best to whip up some intermission entertainment in Local Chat. Sometimes they can be quite diligent and persistent about it, as if trying to force a response.

In any event, on one of those occasions, reportedly, the person opposed to CODE. that we speak of (hereinafter "F. SEAL") made a comment or comments about text in a ganker individual's bio. The text was a tribute to a deceased member of the EVE community. Unforgivable and tasteless conduct, I think any reader will agree. But apparently, that communication was made in Local Chat, or perhaps Private Convo. In any event, it was communicated to a limited audience, and the text of limited duration, subject to being lost unless deliberately found by Scroll Up.

But... thereafter, CODE's designated diplomat (who is, incidentally, a member of the current CSM), posted notice of that Local Chat communication here in General Discussion. By this writer's reading of the post, the content could be summarized as: "A member of the anti-ganking community said something foul and despicable about a murdered member of the EVE community. But out of respect, etc., etc., we'll let it drop." Said post thereby (in this writer's opinion), not limiting the damage of a harmful but temporary Local Chat post, but instead spreading it's exposure to the entire General Discussion-reading community. Where it notice of the harm would sit and be accessed by otherwise unknowing people over a period of days.

Time passed. CODE. people and anti-ganker people battled in space and in Local Chat. All was well. Then, a prominent member of the anti-ganking community posted on his blog that his spouse had passed away. It seems it was only a matter of time before CODE., with its love of prolonged Local Chat/Private Convo mind fooking, could not resist working that vulnerable point. The attack on the player featured The Conference Elite (main CODE. corp) loyalanon digging the player about his deceased wife in Convo, with prolonged gang-up/tag-team support. (An interesting detail: A Conference Elite corp member saying "and you're still doing her.") So much for "We're so offended about offensive chatting"....

The player quit the game, apparently he also took down all of his gankerbumping blogs. So I can't link the chat log that he'd posted. I or somebody can get the documentation though.

In summary: a) If you want to make hay with hypocritical propoganda, best do it right. It may make you look stupid if you get caught. b) Welcome to the Bonus Room, round 2! Same old thing, new package. c)

Fallen Seal should have been banned - it was done within EvE.

The Code members involved in this latest rubbish should be banned - but it was down outside EvE.

But none of that will happen unless it is petitioned (My understanding is that a petition has been made and Code are dealing with it internally also).

The OP of this thread should be banned too.

Let it drop and let these things be dealt with in the right place. At least, if you are going to come whine in the forum on an issue like this, do it objectively and not with your one sided opinion about who is worse.

Exactly.

So why bring this bullshit to the forum like a whiny little kid who just sees an opportunity to make his own point at the expense of an already poor situation.

It seems these ppl are unavoidable filth of EvE .

it is hard to draw a line what is vid game and what is rl life to ppl who don't have any.

I pity them.

Why am I not surprised code are not only bad people in game, but bad people in real life to. So sick of reading about them, and this is very much a perma ban worthy incident.

I meant the ban being for those involved with this situation obviously...not their whole entire group. That should have been obvious but you were to busy trying to run to the rescue and defend code.

Just a nitpick, I assume you're referring to DJentropy Ovaert?

He's not on the CSM, that's DJ FunkyBacon.

Khergit, I think you shouldn't lend your name to defend Gorila. His comments were inappropriate, he tried and failed to finger loyalanon for reprehensible comments against his wife, which were never actually made.

Now that the smear campaign has failed, Gorila is fueling more drama.

Is this really someone you want to defend?






I wasn't aware DJ is a part of CSM9.

This has no connection to Ripard and Ero 1.

is this a Free Erotica1 topic?

If there was a personal attack on another player about his deceased wife then there should be a severe punishment for it. But there should also be proof and it should be handled by CCP, not by the general discussion forums.