Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No, it really doesn't. A reinforced POS has a honking great timer on it, telling me exactly when I can come back with dreads and kill it with fire. It also doesn't make you any money while it's in RF.

An invisible POS that I cannot find or shoot, that generates silly amounts of money for you with no risk whatsoever is nothing like a pos that is making no money for anyone and is counting down to it's potential destruction.

You get this idea from Stargate Atlantis?

Give it a different role from a traditional POS then.

No manufacturing, or moon resource grabbing.
No moon orbit either.

Purely tactical, hidden military base designed to support covert shipping exclusively.
In fact, I think it might make sense if it fit the theme, of only being compatible with covops capable vessels and black ops.

It never decloaks for normal use, but only that short list of ships can ever use it without causing it's cloak to be disrupted and visible to scanning.
(A 15 minute recalibration would be needed before it auto-restored it's cloak)

How would that work out?

What is the problem of using existing carriers with cloacking device fitted on them. If you do everything in 0 local it is exactly what you are looking for. Another option are mobile depo's. But you have to be more patient if somebody desides to camp it for some time to kill you. Local checks once again.

A Traditional POS would be hella OP if you could cloak it. You say the only time it would be vulnerable is when the stock of fuel needs to capped off. So let run this off on how I would go about running a covert POS.

1. Find a system worth placing the POS,

2. Watch the local of system, checking which times the area is most active, and least active,

3. Figure out how much fuel I can run before the POS runs out and decloaks. Then using that timing,

3a, Build POS, and give it fuel when it will run out of fuel or come close to running out of fuel during the Local system most inactive time

4.???? I honestly don't know anything about industry ????

5. Profit without actually risking the POS.

Unlike the traditional POS, which has a freakin huge ass blue as orb floating around it with cannon's ECM arrays and so forth, no one can see it, and as such no will be bothered to finding it.

Cloaks are kinda in a "IT'S OP, NOT IT'S NOT OP "state anyways no need to add more fuel to fire as is.


EDIT: Nikk Narrel, is making a headway for this and his making constructive posts on how this would work. So I would work with him on this idea. +1 for that dude.

I'm at a loss for how to really respond to this idea, I could just say it is a bad idea and move on but that really wouldn't get the point across. Constant unhindered cloaking has already been a matter of controversy in eve, just look at all the people advocating for anti-cloak modules. Now you say that someone wouldn't be able to anchor a POS at the moon your Cloaked POS is at, well tell me how any meaningful gameplay would be derived from forcing groups to constantly anchor and unanchor POS's at every moon just to find your cloaked one. Not to mention that once a moon is found to have a covert POS you suggest the only way of finding it is to stake out the POS waiting for the owner of the POS to come use it and thereby uncloak it.

On top of this what is even the point of having the covert POS in the first place, what meaningful addition would it be to the gameplay in eve, you just stated it would have no use for industry and would only be useful for changing fits, repairing and storing loot. Wait a second this sounds familiar, sounds to me like a glorified cloaked mobile depot.

So just to get this straight,
1) Anybody trying to find a covert POS would have to attempt to anchor a POS on every moon in a system just to find one with a covert POS on this (This would be beyond annoying, and boring).
2) Once they even found a moon with a cloaked POS they would have to stake out the moon for possibly up to a month just waiting for a person to come and use it for maybe only a few minutes (A monumental waste of time, that would not be meaningful to gameplay in any way).
3) The person wanting to use the covert POS can just wait for an empty local do what they want to do then recloak it and leave.
4) It has no meaningful addition to the game as it's basically a cloaked mobile depot…

All in all, I think it would be a waste of developer time and would have a negative effect on gameplay rather than a positive one.

No, I'm pretty sure he read the thread.

Let me make this perfectly clear, Angeal. Nobody, except for you and the cloaky freighter guy, thinks this is remotely a good idea. It's so bad, that I'm honestly surprised that Tippia hasn't shown up yet.

I'll set you a challenge. Find a friend, tell him to cloak between 100 and 200km off the sun in a battleship. Then go fly around and decloak him. Come back and report findings please.

I skimmed through the thread then read your last post, I noted that pretty much 90% of the people posting in this thread are in agreement that the idea is bad. You're just changing your idea to try and make it viable, you are quite literally splitting hairs. The fact is, at this point you've changed the idea from some stupid unbalanced pipe dream to where it's a useless addition that once again as I said adds no meaningful gameplay. It's just a bad idea, go move on to something else.

Splitting hairs? An original idea is presented, it has flaws, so through discussion those flaws are worked out and the idea evolves. What do you think happens when the devs sit down to discuss ideas?

Hell that's life in general when you work with others. I'm an aircraft mechanic and work with a team so this sort of thing is common.


Just because it adds something to an area of the game you are not interested in, doesn't mean it doesn't add anything. It would add some depth to an area of the game that can use it.

Pretty sure what I said was...



In reply to a post by Nikk Narrel.

Which in no way, shape, or form even comes remotely close to being on par with your strawman that you just presented.

Oh and since you brought it up...

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/04/could-us-military-soon-have-invisibility-cloaks/81772/