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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-08-02 05:03:10 UTC
Am I "too late" to this thread to haz your stuff?

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Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#82 - 2014-08-02 05:18:52 UTC
Sorry to hear that. I am powerful. As a hunter as a solo player. I live for the fight. Win or loose
My power is freedom. Having been a cog in a nullsec alliance, I can tell you there is no true power to be had there

But that's my interpretation of power. My freedom.

You don't need a lot of skills to be good at pvp. Just get out there and do it. You will grow in actual skill about as fast as you grow in sp. the combination of both make you good at pvp.

As for pve. You'll have to look to someone else for guidence there
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#83 - 2014-08-02 05:52:04 UTC
Not gonna ask for stuff. I have my own. OP, don't let yourself become discouraged so easily. EVE is a rough place with a pretty steep learning curve. There is no 'I win' button, you can't gravy train til max level, there will be no killing trees west of midgaard to PL you.
ISK and stuff comes and goes, what's more important is to enjoy whatever it is you're doing.... even if you're failing at it. Just try to learn from your mistakes whenever possible. If someone stomps you in pvp, talk to them, maybe they'll be willing to share fitting and tactical advice with you. Make connections with other people, even if it is as enemies. An active enemy can be as much fun to play with as an Ally. The other players are what makes EVE worth playing, without them it's just a framework full of tools and pretty pictures... with some fairly tedious PVE activities thrown in.

Do some research, find a direction you'd like to go and make your own path that way. Just don't let your mind be polluted by some notion of an 'endgame'.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Big Lynx
#84 - 2014-08-02 07:01:02 UTC
Free stuffz?!?! *sniffing*
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#85 - 2014-08-02 07:07:57 UTC
ITT a renter is complaining about nullsec

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Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2014-08-02 10:04:32 UTC
OP, there are plenty of avenues to mingle with players who share your interests. There is the Forums, of course. Joining a Corp, finding people in local. However, I might suggest you search for chat channels. I'm pretty sure a Science & Industry one exists. Get talking to a few likeminded people, share ideas, have a few laughs. Get your face known to the right people and see what happens.

As for "too late to the party", I have to be blunt, that's utter rubbish! I imagine you have beg goals, like building a Titan, or a POS, or something like that? Well, that's good, keep that goal in mind. However, don't dismiss it simply because it seems so far away to achieve. Instead, there is plenty of room in the mean time for smaller goals. For example, an early goal could be to make a successful profit on manufacturing a small/cheap t1 BPO. Second goal could be to max out the material/time efficiency of that BPO. Third, Successfully print and sell T2 copies of that to other people. Whiile these goals seem small and trite, they do add up in the long run, giving you the experience that only practice can give you.

I too enjoy Science & Industry. I also enjoy PVP. Now, while I can safely say I'm competent at S&I, I suck so hard at PVP. But you know what, sod it, I dust myself off and try again anyway. Why? Because of 3 things:

1) It's fun. Fine, I suck, but it's fun
2) I know that practice makes perfect(ish). With enough practice and broken ships, I'll know much more about the craft of PVP
3) I have some great people I fly with.

With the S&I side of things, I have mapped out a few short-mid term goals of my own, which I am enjoying meeting and working toward. With these goals mapped out, I have estimated how they could be beneficial.

Now OP, Instead of asking the rest of the playerbase if you're too late, I want to ask you a question. What is your goal? If you had to describe your niche, what would it be OP?

Why, thank you, Thing!
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#87 - 2014-08-02 10:12:17 UTC
Dude....you joined a renter alliance....what did you expect? To my knowledge, no renter has ever achieved anything of note, renting is like the shortcut to total mediocrity.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2014-08-02 10:19:24 UTC
It has been noted before that in 99% of all videogames you are 'THE HERO!!!'. Except that, like all the other players, you're just a nerd with too much time to spare and gullible enough to believe in the illusion that the game designers created.

In EVE, you're just a nerd like all the others, period.

Except that you CAN actually become a more 'powerful' nerd. Unless you're so gullible that you think the other nerds will just step aside and bow to you because you're the chosen special snowflake.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#89 - 2014-08-02 10:37:53 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Stuff.


Holy batman, what a wall of text



If you are leaving, those posts should be in OOPE.

Bye.

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Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#90 - 2014-08-02 10:38:06 UTC
While you may not be 'the hero' in eve, even the most destitute and downtrodden capsuleer is far better off than say, a warp technician on a gank catalyst. Loss can be frustrating, but it could be a heck of a lot worse.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#91 - 2014-08-02 10:46:29 UTC
today is my 1st time flying a VNI (with average skillz trained) and i took part in a 12-kill (HACs, T3 Cruisers and Carriers) worth roughly 9.22B.

i played this game for about 4 months.

so OP, NO, you are never too late to play this game. you just need the right attitude. Big smile

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Sliana Non'Grata
HighSecers United
#92 - 2014-08-02 11:11:25 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Skydell wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
TL;DR OP doesn't have the patience it takes to play this game.




It's less about patience, more about how much time you are willing to sink in to the game. Most people won't 'matter' in EVE. It has little to do with when they joined. They just can't wrap their head around the EVE concept. It's an on call job, 23/7 for people who 'matter'. For people like the OP, they look at end game and decide they want nothing to do with that and see anything else the game has to offer as servitude to end game. I'm guilty of this thinking myself at time. It's a hard bug to shake.


Having that kind of 'bug' is the problem. NO ONE matters in EVE (except Chribba, he's the man), EVE is what you make it for yourself. That's the beauty of EVE as opposed to the rest of the MMO world that lies to you and tells you you are a special heroic snowflake.

I've been in alliances and other kinds of groups, I've never once been or seen myself as someone elses *****. The alliance (and the alliance's 'boss') got someone to shoot stuff for them, and I got access to all manner of enjoyable things that I either would not have had other wise or would have had to 'ninja' to get. Fair Trade is not exploitation.

The problem is the 'soloer' mind set is that it views cooperation (which is necessary to achieve higher goals) as subjugation. It's not.

"You L33T d347H D341R #446891 are the chosen one"


Its D3413R not D341R.
Your l33t status has been revoked, turn in your card.
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2014-08-02 11:24:20 UTC
If you donate your things to me I guarantee you it will go to a good cause.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#94 - 2014-08-02 11:28:11 UTC
I've started over several times, yet I don't feel behind. There is only so high you can train a skill and once you get it to V, it doesn't make any difference if it is on a 10 mil sp character or a 245 mil sp character.

That said, I don't intend to roll a new main again, that **** is bananas.

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Ariel Marquette
Doomheim
#95 - 2014-08-02 11:41:07 UTC
If you really want to be the next Mittens or the kingpin of the next big power bloc, you simply have to accept that it's going to take years to get there. Even if you're willing to invest the time, there's no guarantee.

Goons, for example, came from another Internet community with the expressed intent of ruining the game for others. Who came with you? Did you show up alone? If so, you've got a rough road ahead.

Do you know a bunch of folks who are willing to work hard at doing your bidding and let you have all the glory? If not, being king of anything isn't likely in the cards. The few people who are in the position you want to hold have thousands of players that love the taste of their genitals and will suck 'em all day long.
Serene Repose
#96 - 2014-08-02 12:06:31 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
My eyes..




Your stuff...
You are so funny.

The OP, on the other hand, strikes me as one of those "gamers" who made it big somewhere else, then figured all that know-how and leetness would transer to us slowpokes here in EVEland. Come to find out, beginners here are beginners here. Your feats of derring-do in WoW and other regions won't serve you well here.

What the OP calls "waiting" other folks call "playing the game." Only self-imagined gaming pros complain about not being able to run with the big dogs the first...(let's be generous here) MONTH.

I'm sorry. I do not sympathize. However, I did read the OP's entire post, and for that I deserve at least 60% of his stuff.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#97 - 2014-08-02 14:02:14 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
Yep, 2 months and I am probably done already.

...PVP on the other hand is pretty damn exciting and has many elements that are interesting as the challenge changes up depending on the number of ships and their type that you have to face.

...

Many people apparently want fights, and for what logical purpose other then to perhaps fatten ones killboard I have no clue.


?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#98 - 2014-08-02 14:13:24 UTC
Sliana Non'Grata wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Skydell wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
TL;DR OP doesn't have the patience it takes to play this game.




It's less about patience, more about how much time you are willing to sink in to the game. Most people won't 'matter' in EVE. It has little to do with when they joined. They just can't wrap their head around the EVE concept. It's an on call job, 23/7 for people who 'matter'. For people like the OP, they look at end game and decide they want nothing to do with that and see anything else the game has to offer as servitude to end game. I'm guilty of this thinking myself at time. It's a hard bug to shake.


Having that kind of 'bug' is the problem. NO ONE matters in EVE (except Chribba, he's the man), EVE is what you make it for yourself. That's the beauty of EVE as opposed to the rest of the MMO world that lies to you and tells you you are a special heroic snowflake.

I've been in alliances and other kinds of groups, I've never once been or seen myself as someone elses *****. The alliance (and the alliance's 'boss') got someone to shoot stuff for them, and I got access to all manner of enjoyable things that I either would not have had other wise or would have had to 'ninja' to get. Fair Trade is not exploitation.

The problem is the 'soloer' mind set is that it views cooperation (which is necessary to achieve higher goals) as subjugation. It's not.

"You L33T d347H D341R #446891 are the chosen one"


Its D3413R not D341R.
Your l33t status has been revoked, turn in your card.

Don't you know it's in poor taste to criticize a man's C-64 speak?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Prince Kobol
#99 - 2014-08-02 14:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Whilst the OP post is pretty much full of whine I also find it funny that lots of people are saying that anybody could be the next mittans.

Lets all be honest here, there are about 5 people in the entire of Eve that control null sec and that is not going to change any time soon.

So sure you could be the guy who gets the tackle on a super that enables your fleet to cyno in and kill him, or maybe you can be the guy who steals billions of isk but on the whole yeah it means very little and changes almost nothing.

Those very few people who control all of null sec, they are the only people who are able to inflict real change and that is a pretty sad state of affairs.

So if you are one of those people who believes in all the crap that CCP pumps out about being able to make a difference, sorry you have been duped.

If you don't care about stuff like that they you stand a much better chance enjoying the game.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#100 - 2014-08-02 16:12:58 UTC
You are 2 months old - you did not try anything yet.

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