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Dueling and fleet bonuses or any other bonuses
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Yige Shen
Zhi Zheng
#1 - 2014-08-01 23:09:02 UTC
I was thinking about dueling but one thing I wouldn't want to mess with is accepting a duel then getting killed in 10 seconds because he had some bonuses, like from being in a fleet. Does anyone know anything about this? Please include all possible bonuses. Thanks.

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#2 - 2014-08-01 23:30:21 UTC
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ship_Equipment:Fleet_Assistance_Modules:Warfare_Links

There aren't any fleet bonuses that add damage or damage application, none of them are offensive aside from the web/point range bonus and maybe some of the ewar ones.

So they might make your target harder to kill, but all the DPS is his own (unless you're being target painted by a third party, which is not legal in a highsec duel to begin with).

Also look out for them bringing logi.

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Yige Shen
Zhi Zheng
#3 - 2014-08-01 23:39:12 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ship_Equipment:Fleet_Assistance_Modules:Warfare_Links

There aren't any fleet bonuses that add damage or damage application, none of them are offensive aside from the web/point range bonus and maybe some of the ewar ones.

So they might make your target harder to kill, but all the DPS is his own (unless you're being target painted by a third party, which is not legal in a highsec duel to begin with).

Also look out for them bringing logi.




By "they might be harder to kill" do you mean they get the shield and armor bonuses from being in a fleet?

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-08-02 00:01:42 UTC
Yes resist and ammount bonuses.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-08-02 01:46:38 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Forest Archer wrote:
Yes resist and ammount bonuses.


And speed, which can be used as a form of tanking.


Easy way to make it fair, beside a duel also fleet up with the person. This way you can see that he doesmt have links to boost him.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-08-02 02:30:54 UTC
pro tip: there is no such thing as a fair fight in EVE

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-08-02 02:34:26 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Forest Archer wrote:
Yes resist and ammount bonuses.


And speed, which can be used as a form of tanking.


Easy way to make it fair, beside a duel also fleet up with the person. This way you can see that he doesmt have links to boost him.


Thank you j'poll I always know you got my back when I overlook something.

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Nikolai Lachance
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-08-02 05:03:46 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
pro tip: there is no such thing as a fair fight in EVE


Indeed. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you've both screwed up.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2014-08-02 12:21:08 UTC
Nikolai Lachance wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
pro tip: there is no such thing as a fair fight in EVE


Indeed. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you've both screwed up.

see my last kill for comedic example of "eve-fair"

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#10 - 2014-08-02 15:56:35 UTC
The only time a fair fight happens is when noone cares about the outcome.

You should assume any 1v1 involves your opponent having neutral remote repairs and boosting and friends ready to jump in. If you do not have this ability do not engage, or engage expecting a loss.

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darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-08-02 17:21:06 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
pro tip: there is no such thing as a fair fight in EVE


Maybe not in high-sec. You can however find lots of people who are simply looking for a good (i.e. interesting) fight in low-sec, especially if you fly a T1 frigate.

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Ritual Union
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-08-03 11:58:59 UTC
Yige Shen wrote:
Please include all possible bonuses. Thanks.


Unless I'm missing something, they are:

A: Character skill bonuses, Ship bonuses,
B: Fleet Links Bonuses(fleet boosters),
C: Implants Bonuses, Drugs Bonuses(also called boosters)

Since Eve Online seems to be Alts Online, dueling with unknown people, in my opinion, is really not worth it. Fighting people that have (all of) those bonuses puts you in a really bad spot.

Roll

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-08-03 13:22:08 UTC
Ritual Union wrote:
Yige Shen wrote:
Please include all possible bonuses. Thanks.


Unless I'm missing something, they are:

A: Character skill bonuses, Ship bonuses,
B: Fleet Links Bonuses(fleet boosters),
C: Implants Bonuses, Drugs Bonuses(also called boosters)

Since Eve Online seems to be Alts Online, dueling with unknown people, in my opinion, is really not worth it. Fighting people that have (all of) those bonuses puts you in a really bad spot.

Roll


D. Remote assistance modules (Remote SeBo, Remote ECCM, Remote reps)

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2014-08-03 13:35:51 UTC
SeBo= Sensor Booster
(that one confused me for like 6 months)

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-08-03 16:52:08 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
SeBo= Sensor Booster
(that one confused me for like 6 months)


I'm sometimes still confused why the market turns out nothing when you search for SeBo or any other abbreviation.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2014-08-03 17:10:52 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
SeBo= Sensor Booster
(that one confused me for like 6 months)


I'm sometimes still confused why the market turns out nothing when you search for SeBo or any other abbreviation.

well I'm dyslexic (yeah i know, really bad game to fall in love with)so its almost always less efficient to use that search function as I couldn't spell for my dinner.

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