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Venture Kills Competition - Brought to you by Code.

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#181 - 2014-08-01 08:41:32 UTC  |  Edited by: loyalanon
CCP Falcon wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!


The way I read this is that a PLEX will be awarded to the youngest pilot who takes part in the competition and goes out to kill ventures, rather than the youngest victim that's killed in the event. If this is the case, then there's no problem in my mind.


This is correct.

The youngest pilot on a venture killmail is the winner. Terms are in the original post Screenshot of pilots age at time of killmail must be sent to me.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#182 - 2014-08-01 09:11:57 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


You should learn more about correlation and causation.

Correlation does not prove causation. However, it does merit further investigation.

The Venture - not the 'AFKtar', not the Thanatos, not a Marauder, not even exhumers - is the most commonly banned botting ship in EVE. There are a wide variety of possibilities as to why. But it is an undeniable fact that a large number of people set up trial accounts, train them into Ventures, and run bots on them in the safety of highsec.


Yea and only thing that i demand is if you have any proof that 50% of all venture pilots out there are bots !

oh and by the way, You dont need to tutor me about correlation does not prove causation.. Because...ironicaly.... thats exactly what are you doing right now Idea


Quote:

As for newbies -.... what's the big deal? ....

....Being shot at early in a fight where I couldn't win, that I could only escape helped me get hooked on EVE.


This is realy interesting. In the first half of your post, you are trying to convince us that "August Venture hunt" is "because of bots" and in the other half of post, you are justifiyng that killing newborn ventures is a good thing. Big smile

CODE. and their supportes realy ARE a bottom-feeders of EVE Big smile

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#183 - 2014-08-01 09:28:23 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion.

We do not support the ganking of pilots in Rookie Systems or Rookies in General. This is an Anti-ganker community propaganda and the conclusion that everyone is jumping to however we have never said we will gank in rookie systems.

If you do so - it is at your own risk.

Now that this is cleared up

https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/losses/

21 Venture kills in High sec at the time of this writing I will post every few days with counts of how many have been killed etc and update my original prize as more donations come in.



well done half those kills look like players who have just started the game, bravo code

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#184 - 2014-08-01 09:40:13 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion.

We do not support the ganking of pilots in Rookie Systems or Rookies in General. This is an Anti-ganker community propaganda and the conclusion that everyone is jumping to however we have never said we will gank in rookie systems.

If you do so - it is at your own risk.

Now that this is cleared up

https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/losses/

21 Venture kills in High sec at the time of this writing I will post every few days with counts of how many have been killed etc and update my original prize as more donations come in.



well done half those kills look like players who have just started the game, bravo code


Holy ****, one of those Ventures was lugging a PLEX around. Shocked

Every time I see this I consider myself lucky to be too paranoid for doing something so dumb. You can activate a PLEX from the other side of New Eden, for heaven's sake! There should never be a situation where you're forced to do this.
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#185 - 2014-08-01 10:31:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolai Serkanner
TharOkha wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:

There doesn't need to be a point. This is a game about shooting spaceships. It is fun to shoot space ships. A Venture is a space ship. End of debate.


Well.....yeah.... Big smile but seriously.... VENTURES ? Big smile .......its noob mining frigate ffsake... You cant go lower that this Bear ...well...you can. .....Possible "Rookie ship kills competition" is lower Big smile


You are just a snob.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#186 - 2014-08-01 11:00:55 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion.

We do not support the ganking of pilots in Rookie Systems or Rookies in General. This is an Anti-ganker community propaganda and the conclusion that everyone is jumping to however we have never said we will gank in rookie systems.

If you do so - it is at your own risk.

Now that this is cleared up

https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/losses/

21 Venture kills in High sec at the time of this writing I will post every few days with counts of how many have been killed etc and update my original prize as more donations come in.



well done half those kills look like players who have just started the game, bravo code

Yeah, looks like this event is causing a bunch of rookie griefing. You may not "support" it but you sure are encouraging it.
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#187 - 2014-08-01 11:09:21 UTC
Quote:
Holy ****, one of those Ventures was lugging a PLEX around.

Every time I see this I consider myself lucky to be too paranoid for doing something so dumb. You can activate a PLEX from the other side of New Eden, for heaven's sake! There should never be a situation where you're forced to do this.


When I was about 1 month old. I didn't know about any of that stuff really. I redemed a PLEX found out that nothing was really for sale round here (around Mamet IIRC), loaded the 3 PLEX into a unfitted rifter and flew to Jita.

I was in low sec. Only i didn't know it was lowsec, because it was like above zero, so that like highsec right? I didn't know about ganking either.

But really how young is a young player? How many are old players training up alts. etc. Eve is a game of danger. Once you don't have your training wheels on (aka doing the tutorials), then i recon its fair game. I went suspect looting someones can in Jita on my 3rd day in eve. I learnt about crime watch pretty fast.

Also ventures are not just for newbs. We used them all the time in the WHs and what other ships get cloud harvesting bonus?

ps check out my killboard.. esp the last 2 kills and death :D

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#188 - 2014-08-01 11:13:52 UTC
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
But really how young is a young player? How many are old players training up alts. etc.

This.

Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Also ventures are not just for newbs. We used them all the time in the WHs and what other ships get cloud harvesting bonus?

And this.

I'd hazard to guess half the Ventures you encounter beyond rookie areas are in fact alts of older players. Ventures are also very common in wormholes, not so sure about low/null but I suspect they see just as much use there too.

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Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#189 - 2014-08-01 11:40:00 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
But really how young is a young player? How many are old players training up alts. etc.

This.

Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Also ventures are not just for newbs. We used them all the time in the WHs and what other ships get cloud harvesting bonus?

And this.

I'd hazard to guess half the Ventures you encounter beyond rookie areas are in fact alts of older players. Ventures are also very common in wormholes, not so sure about low/null but I suspect they see just as much use there too.

But why would someone mine veldspar in a venture on their alt? And if they knew about a better use for ventures, why would they be mining in high sec at all?
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#190 - 2014-08-01 11:46:06 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
But why would someone mine veldspar in a venture on their alt? And if they knew about a better use for ventures, why would they be mining in high sec at all?

Need to mine something while your new alt is skilling up. But honestly if I had an ISK for everytime I saw someone do something terribly inefficient or just plain silly in EVE I'd never need to PLEX again.

The better question is though why would you come to a 0.5 system to mine Veldspar in the first place?

Answer is they're usually not mining Veldspar.

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Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#191 - 2014-08-01 12:13:04 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Derrick Miles wrote:
But why would someone mine veldspar in a venture on their alt? And if they knew about a better use for ventures, why would they be mining in high sec at all?

Need to mine something while your new alt is skilling up. But honestly if I had an ISK for everytime I saw someone do something terribly inefficient or just plain silly in EVE I'd never need to PLEX again.

The better question is though why would you come to a 0.5 system to mine Veldspar in the first place?

Answer is they're usually not mining Veldspar.

Over half of the venture kills in high sec are of players less than a week old. There's no way all of those are alts, and if that doesn't constitute rookie griefing then I don't know what does.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#192 - 2014-08-01 12:18:18 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Derrick Miles wrote:
But why would someone mine veldspar in a venture on their alt? And if they knew about a better use for ventures, why would they be mining in high sec at all?

Need to mine something while your new alt is skilling up. But honestly if I had an ISK for everytime I saw someone do something terribly inefficient or just plain silly in EVE I'd never need to PLEX again.

The better question is though why would you come to a 0.5 system to mine Veldspar in the first place?

Answer is they're usually not mining Veldspar.

Over half of the venture kills in high sec are of players less than a week old. There's no way all of those are alts, and if that doesn't constitute rookie griefing then I don't know what does.

I never said they are.

And I never said it doesn't.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Calathea Natinde
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#193 - 2014-08-01 12:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Calathea Natinde
Derrick Miles wrote:

Over half of the venture kills in high sec are of players less than a week old. There's no way all of those are alts, and if that doesn't constitute rookie griefing then I don't know what does.


Scanning through the fits of the sub-1m isk ventures, yup, those are us rookies. Pop gun and just the one mining laser? Stack two of those shields because there's not much else which fits til the rats drop something. Eventually the penny drops (perhaps when getting more frustrated with having to bail every time you can't even target a rat), and you train drones. My world for the past three weeks. And then it's strip mining time. Or not. Not a huge mining fan but glad I've tried it.

For those wondering why you see a rookie in 0.5 sec or lower, that'll be the ones trying to escape the neverending strip mining and Giant Secure Container spam of hisec. If you're on at a special time of day, you also get to see the borg fleet powered by an orca in action too. I even mined in 0.2 sec but I mined the simple stuff I knew I could sell to the contract next door and running away from every rat quickly got boring.

No problems with CODE. Not been ganked in a Badger when missioning in the areas where they operate, not been given grief over a permit, and, from what I've seen, they've always been exceptionally polite in local when challenged on their belief system. But this event seems odd to me, as a rookie, especially reading the justifications given. If you just want to chat Jim, my Cookery V should skill up sometime in September, let's do brunch or something. Blowing up my venture will just make me think that null sec must be hellishly boring if you're all stomping rookies in hisec.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#194 - 2014-08-01 12:30:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Derrick Miles wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Just to clear up any confusion.

We do not support the ganking of pilots in Rookie Systems or Rookies in General. This is an Anti-ganker community propaganda and the conclusion that everyone is jumping to however we have never said we will gank in rookie systems.

If you do so - it is at your own risk.

Now that this is cleared up

https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/losses/

21 Venture kills in High sec at the time of this writing I will post every few days with counts of how many have been killed etc and update my original prize as more donations come in.



well done half those kills look like players who have just started the game, bravo code

Yeah, looks like this event is causing a bunch of rookie griefing. You may not "support" it but you sure are encouraging it.


what am i encouraging? sorry misread your post

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#195 - 2014-08-01 13:30:16 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Hypercake Mix wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Can someone show me where it says that code are going to target rookie systems?


Code probably won't, but some other idiot will.


of course they wont
that would require taking risks



which is the same reason they continuously ignore all the ratting bots out in null


Can you provide me with some evidence to show that code has ever cared about null sec?


The New Orders links to the Nullsec botting overlords is well documented.

But as for 'evidence' that 'code' ever cared about Nullsec? Well there are the continaul references to the Mittani and the goons. Its as though they have some significant influence on the New Order. Btw did I mention James 315 is an goon?
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#196 - 2014-08-01 16:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Cidanel Afuran
So can we create alts and just kill ourselves over and over?

brb, I will get you a kill of a pilot who is only a few min. old
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#197 - 2014-08-01 23:55:08 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
But really how young is a young player? How many are old players training up alts. etc.

This.

Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Also ventures are not just for newbs. We used them all the time in the WHs and what other ships get cloud harvesting bonus?

And this.

I'd hazard to guess half the Ventures you encounter beyond rookie areas are in fact alts of older players. Ventures are also very common in wormholes, not so sure about low/null but I suspect they see just as much use there too.



This contest is specifically high sec
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#198 - 2014-08-01 23:59:57 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Hypercake Mix wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
Can someone show me where it says that code are going to target rookie systems?


Code probably won't, but some other idiot will.


of course they wont
that would require taking risks



which is the same reason they continuously ignore all the ratting bots out in null


Can you provide me with some evidence to show that code has ever cared about null sec?


The New Orders links to the Nullsec botting overlords is well documented.

But as for 'evidence' that 'code' ever cared about Nullsec? Well there are the continaul references to the Mittani and the goons. Its as though they have some significant influence on the New Order. Btw did I mention James 315 is an goon?


Evidence please
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#199 - 2014-08-02 02:29:27 UTC
Keep killing these ventures!!
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#200 - 2014-08-02 03:14:30 UTC
TL,DR - debunked, The CODE always wins, kill Capt Starfox.

Oh the "goon" thing again...

Just because the Mittani is only player we will ever recognize as the Chairman of the CSM doesn't make us "goons" bro.

James 315 used to be a "goon." Now he is the CEO of his own corp with all the responsibilities that go with such a position.

We also believe that highsec is filled with a lot bad players. These players universally consider "goons" to be bad. To avoid ever having a common cause with bad players we broke the tradition of highsec dwellers and consider "goons" to be good.

We also enjoy the company of a "goon" or two in fleet from time to time. Sometimes a CFC alliance pilot is with us, sometimes TEST, sometimes NC, sometimes BL, sometimes Pasta. We are a free to join/play with movement and we've ganked with people from every corner of eve. We've even had wormholers with us. One of the unofficial leaders in our public channel is a PL alt who is literally the cat's pajamas! How can you consider us "goons" now that you know all this?

Anyway, here are the secret entrance requirements for CODE. when people ask what they need to do to join.
1) Be a living human being.
2) Be able to fly a catalyst with 8 guns and 3 magstabs.
3) A willingness to have fun and shoot people in highsec.
4) Have a strong tolerance for winning every time you undock.

Good Luck to everyone this month!

ps Capt Starfox stole all my venture ganking gear. If you see him please yell at him in local and then blow him up. TIA

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