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Valkin Mordirc
#21 - 2014-08-01 12:51:49 UTC
Why would need a Cyno when you can just do this?

Just found that vid, and I really want a marauder now.
#DeleteTheWeak
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-08-01 12:59:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Bastion Arzi
:)

but with a cyno in tow u can do this and wait for thier response...
Valkin Mordirc
#23 - 2014-08-01 13:01:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
^.^
#DeleteTheWeak
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#24 - 2014-08-11 02:09:29 UTC
Bait marauder fit

Golem or Vargur
Bastion + Cyno
4x X-Large ASB
Hardeners and -Co-processors
Damage control
Cruise missiles if fit available for DPS application
maybe cargo expanders for more charges

Blue pill booster
HG Crystals

RESULT:
Tanky cyno ship marauder with a whopping 100k DPS Tank, of course a dread will kill you in 3-5 vollies still so hope you prepared for that.

Don't beleive me? Test server or EFT it

http://gyazo.com/3ebae1552bdbeafc7f7f3b7ffd0bd051 < EFT

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#25 - 2014-08-11 02:10:23 UTC
Oh and task something else to tackle for you like a Hic
because that fit has no point, could do it but you lose 10K DPS tank

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-08-11 10:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kagura Nikon
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bait marauder fit

Golem or Vargur
Bastion + Cyno
4x X-Large ASB
Hardeners and -Co-processors
Damage control
Cruise missiles if fit available for DPS application
maybe cargo expanders for more charges

Blue pill booster
HG Crystals

RESULT:
Tanky cyno ship marauder with a whopping 100k DPS Tank, of course a dread will kill you in 3-5 vollies still so hope you prepared for that.

Don't beleive me? Test server or EFT it

http://gyazo.com/3ebae1552bdbeafc7f7f3b7ffd0bd051 < EFT



An arti naglfar will kill you in 1 shot... 110k aplha on your weakest resist...

Also why in hell so much overtanking. If you want to attrack such a large fleet, use a carrier as bait.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-08-11 11:26:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Hakaari Inkuran
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bait marauder fit

Golem or Vargur
Bastion + Cyno
4x X-Large ASB
Hardeners and -Co-processors
Damage control
Cruise missiles if fit available for DPS application
maybe cargo expanders for more charges

Blue pill booster
HG Crystals

RESULT:
Tanky cyno ship marauder with a whopping 100k DPS Tank, of course a dread will kill you in 3-5 vollies still so hope you prepared for that.

Don't beleive me? Test server or EFT it

http://gyazo.com/3ebae1552bdbeafc7f7f3b7ffd0bd051 < EFT



An arti naglfar will kill you in 1 shot... 110k aplha on your weakest resist...

Also why in hell so much overtanking. If you want to attrack such a large fleet, use a carrier as bait.

A Moros volley isn't even that large, what are you looking at? A titan?

An arty naglfar has a volley of ~36k and some of that is kin and exp. It won't volley the fit since the fit has 80k effective EHP against the that damage profile, in shields alone.

Now, if you get the "perfect hit" which is a 1% chance, yeah, he'll pretty much fall apart and be in structure.


Edit. Oh arties. I screwed the pooch, was looking at autos. Oops
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-08-11 12:00:39 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bait marauder fit

Golem or Vargur
Bastion + Cyno
4x X-Large ASB
Hardeners and -Co-processors
Damage control
Cruise missiles if fit available for DPS application
maybe cargo expanders for more charges

Blue pill booster
HG Crystals

RESULT:
Tanky cyno ship marauder with a whopping 100k DPS Tank, of course a dread will kill you in 3-5 vollies still so hope you prepared for that.

Don't beleive me? Test server or EFT it

http://gyazo.com/3ebae1552bdbeafc7f7f3b7ffd0bd051 < EFT



An arti naglfar will kill you in 1 shot... 110k aplha on your weakest resist...

Also why in hell so much overtanking. If you want to attrack such a large fleet, use a carrier as bait.

A Moros volley isn't even that large, what are you looking at? A titan?

An arty naglfar has a volley of ~36k and some of that is kin and exp. It won't volley the fit since the fit has 80k effective EHP against the that damage profile, in shields alone.

Now, if you get the "perfect hit" which is a 1% chance, yeah, he'll pretty much fall apart and be in structure.


Edit. Oh arties. I screwed the pooch, was looking at autos. Oops


You need to recheck your data. HINT. USE the siege module ON. My numbers are not wrong (altough I went to the point of using a 6% implant as well)

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#29 - 2014-08-11 12:38:10 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bait marauder fit

Golem or Vargur
Bastion + Cyno
4x X-Large ASB
Hardeners and -Co-processors
Damage control
Cruise missiles if fit available for DPS application
maybe cargo expanders for more charges

Blue pill booster
HG Crystals

RESULT:
Tanky cyno ship marauder with a whopping 100k DPS Tank, of course a dread will kill you in 3-5 vollies still so hope you prepared for that.

Don't beleive me? Test server or EFT it

http://gyazo.com/3ebae1552bdbeafc7f7f3b7ffd0bd051 < EFT



An arti naglfar will kill you in 1 shot... 110k aplha on your weakest resist...

Also why in hell so much overtanking. If you want to attrack such a large fleet, use a carrier as bait.

A Moros volley isn't even that large, what are you looking at? A titan?

An arty naglfar has a volley of ~36k and some of that is kin and exp. It won't volley the fit since the fit has 80k effective EHP against the that damage profile, in shields alone.

Now, if you get the "perfect hit" which is a 1% chance, yeah, he'll pretty much fall apart and be in structure.


Edit. Oh arties. I screwed the pooch, was looking at autos. Oops


3 RF Gyro's gets you >100k Alpha with the 3500's. Remember in bastion mode and siege mode, neither target is moving. it's the perfect shot... every time.
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-08-11 12:56:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Bastion Arzi
still ridiculously overtanked at the loss of utility. probably not worth it imo.

the vargur can tank a kitchen sink fleet of 16 cruisers readily on a single repper i have tested this just the other day check my kb. note most of the kills went to other fleet memebrs though.

also in another fight the vargur came out on top against a neutgeddon and a neuting dominix alonfg with an assortment of other ships i cant rememebr. mostly on a single repper as well. though once my invulns went down i did have to use the second repper once. but this was only becuase i had not timed my heavy nos cycles well enough.

no need to fit 4 shield boosters...

i wonder if i can drop an invuln add an mjd and arties land at 100 and start popping things...
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-08-11 14:14:40 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
Bait marauder fit

Golem or Vargur
Bastion + Cyno
4x X-Large ASB
Hardeners and -Co-processors
Damage control
Cruise missiles if fit available for DPS application
maybe cargo expanders for more charges

Blue pill booster
HG Crystals

RESULT:
Tanky cyno ship marauder with a whopping 100k DPS Tank, of course a dread will kill you in 3-5 vollies still so hope you prepared for that.

Don't beleive me? Test server or EFT it

http://gyazo.com/3ebae1552bdbeafc7f7f3b7ffd0bd051 < EFT



An arti naglfar will kill you in 1 shot... 110k aplha on your weakest resist...

Also why in hell so much overtanking. If you want to attrack such a large fleet, use a carrier as bait.

A Moros volley isn't even that large, what are you looking at? A titan?

An arty naglfar has a volley of ~36k and some of that is kin and exp. It won't volley the fit since the fit has 80k effective EHP against the that damage profile, in shields alone.

Now, if you get the "perfect hit" which is a 1% chance, yeah, he'll pretty much fall apart and be in structure.


Edit. Oh arties. I screwed the pooch, was looking at autos. Oops


3 RF Gyro's gets you >100k Alpha with the 3500's. Remember in bastion mode and siege mode, neither target is moving. it's the perfect shot... every time.

The term was "wrecking", right? Anyway I see what you're saying but I was thinking of wrecking shots when I said "1%". And just because you're not moving doesn't mean wrecking stops being a 1% chance.

He's better off using a EM resist rig than a second operational solidifier, completely removing the ability of any dread to volley him off the field.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#32 - 2014-08-11 15:21:26 UTC
I'm sure the marauder pilot can light his cyno before a dread can siege up, lock and alpha him. Once you get into multiple dreads being cyno'd in by both sides the loss of the marauder, how you fit it and how long it acutally lasts becomes insignificant.

A general rule of thumb - stationary BS won't tank sieged dreadnaughts.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#33 - 2014-08-11 15:32:48 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I'm sure the marauder pilot can light his cyno before a dread can siege up, lock and alpha him. Once you get into multiple dreads being cyno'd in by both sides the loss of the marauder, how you fit it and how long it acutally lasts becomes insignificant.

A general rule of thumb - stationary BS won't tank sieged dreadnaughts.

There are ways. They are rediculously expensive and/or otherwise annoying.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-08-12 10:27:52 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I'm sure the marauder pilot can light his cyno before a dread can siege up, lock and alpha him. Once you get into multiple dreads being cyno'd in by both sides the loss of the marauder, how you fit it and how long it acutally lasts becomes insignificant.

A general rule of thumb - stationary BS won't tank sieged dreadnaughts.



You can do the exact same thing with a frigate.... now you have saved 2 Bil isk....

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#35 - 2014-08-14 14:55:16 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I'm sure the marauder pilot can light his cyno before a dread can siege up, lock and alpha him. Once you get into multiple dreads being cyno'd in by both sides the loss of the marauder, how you fit it and how long it acutally lasts becomes insignificant.

A general rule of thumb - stationary BS won't tank sieged dreadnaughts.



You can do the exact same thing with a frigate.... now you have saved 2 Bil isk....



I'm not sure if you're seeing the point. The difference in price between a rifter and a marauder is 2 billion isk. So golem bait is roughtly 2 billion times better than rifter bait. Are you agreeing with me or arguing with me?
Ravay Kanjus
Infinity Blue
#36 - 2014-08-15 23:29:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ravay Kanjus
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Why would need a Cyno when you can just do this?

Just found that vid, and I really want a marauder now.


I think this is perhaps the best PVP video in EVE history ever. And no ****** 'teen' music, either. Listen to that orchestra!

Edit: "Teen" music refers to 'screamo', really bad dubstep (I like some dubstep!), generic as hell sounding rock. Among others, but you typically are assaulted by the above.
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