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@CCP - Is this your master plot twist?

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#1 - 2014-07-31 18:21:38 UTC
Been reading into the lore a bit more lately... am I to understand correctly that the colonists who came through the EVE Gate were in fact refugees? And that the Jove closed the gate to protect pre-singularity human life modalities?

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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#2 - 2014-07-31 18:26:29 UTC
Please link to where this is hinted/stated. I would love a read
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3 - 2014-07-31 18:37:20 UTC
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-07-31 18:40:02 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.



I was going to suggest they brought blackjack and hookers, but then I realized that was "entertainment technology."

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#5 - 2014-07-31 18:48:05 UTC
Don't forget the hoods.
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-07-31 18:50:20 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.


But where is the grimdark? If there isn't any grimdark we are left with just PSSHHHH!

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2014-07-31 18:58:04 UTC
There is another alternate theory.

Walnuts.

Yep, Walnuts.

In the late 3000's, Walnut gained sentience and began to enslave humanity, forcing them to create large scale public works projects, shower on a twice daily basis, and taking the most influential of humans and baking them into random confectionary goods for both health benefits and texture.

The rebels in humanities ranks eventually fled the Earth, mostly because they preffered bathing weekly over twice daily showering. They escaped in hastily thrown together spaceships, made from old Star Wars props, recycled Cold War ICBMs, duct tape and stuff gotten for 5$ from a NASA garage sale. They found a wormhole that led to an unpopulated pocket of fluidic space that seemed perfect due to their bathing requirements, which would decrease the weekly baths to monthly baths. Worried that Walnuts would find their way to their New Eden, I large scale cosmic Tub Stopper was installed in spectacular fashion, effectively sealing the wormhole.

This also explains why Walnuts are banned from POCOs.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#8 - 2014-07-31 19:08:46 UTC
Actually, the Milky Way as it is in Eve right now is the stage of one of Game Workshop's franchises.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#9 - 2014-07-31 19:19:27 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
They found a wormhole that led to an unpopulated pocket of fluidic space



Eve space is not fluidic. The warp cores create drag on the ships causing this fluid type motion....Also they got the stuff for $10 at a Nasa garage sale after hours of bartering.
Banana Kavaro
New Evolution Express
#10 - 2014-07-31 19:22:18 UTC
Sirinda wrote:
Actually, the Milky Way as it is in Eve right now is the stage of one of Game Workshop's franchises.


Woah what? Details?
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#11 - 2014-07-31 23:23:04 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
...the Jove...


The who?

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2014-08-01 03:54:09 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.


But where is the grimdark? If there isn't any grimdark we are left with just PSSHHHH!


EVE knows no grimdark.......

Now 40k's coined grimdark.......

Spacemarines with open ribcages splayed over the front of tanks, weapons that flay the skin from their victims atomic layer by atomic layer, and "a bunch of loot 'ore nobz and gitz wiff enuff dakka to bring down a titan."
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-08-01 04:51:10 UTC
Soren Tyrhanos wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.


But where is the grimdark? If there isn't any grimdark we are left with just PSSHHHH!


EVE knows no grimdark.......

Now 40k's coined grimdark.......

Spacemarines with open ribcages splayed over the front of tanks, weapons that flay the skin from their victims atomic layer by atomic layer, and "a bunch of loot 'ore nobz and gitz wiff enuff dakka to bring down a titan."


To be fair EVE used to be more grimdark than it is now.

Capsuleers looked like this at one point

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

LordSwift
Wrabble Wrousers
#14 - 2014-08-01 14:22:37 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Soren Tyrhanos wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.


But where is the grimdark? If there isn't any grimdark we are left with just PSSHHHH!


EVE knows no grimdark.......

Now 40k's coined grimdark.......

Spacemarines with open ribcages splayed over the front of tanks, weapons that flay the skin from their victims atomic layer by atomic layer, and "a bunch of loot 'ore nobz and gitz wiff enuff dakka to bring down a titan."


To be fair EVE used to be more grimdark than it is now.

Capsuleers looked like this at one point


Sure thats not sansha?

Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. "

Zoe: "Shoot 'em?"

Mal: "Politely."

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#15 - 2014-08-01 15:57:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
LordSwift wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Soren Tyrhanos wrote:
Falin Whalen wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I always believed that Earth had been infested by Dwarfs, Elfs and Pandas and most of the populace stayed in areas of forest lands where it was absolutely safe and boar were plentiful and stuffed with gold and other trinkets.

To escape that lunacy, the last remnants of humanity escaped into fluidic space in their technologically advanced spaceships that the rest of the new Earth inhabitants eschewed in favor of swords, shields and magic, and sealed themselves in. They took with them only what they needed to barely survive, some entertainment technology, inpenetratable door locks, and several hundred thousand copies of Excel 2000.


But where is the grimdark? If there isn't any grimdark we are left with just PSSHHHH!


EVE knows no grimdark.......

Now 40k's coined grimdark.......

Spacemarines with open ribcages splayed over the front of tanks, weapons that flay the skin from their victims atomic layer by atomic layer, and "a bunch of loot 'ore nobz and gitz wiff enuff dakka to bring down a titan."


To be fair EVE used to be more grimdark than it is now.

Capsuleers looked like this at one point


Sure thats not sansha?

Very sure, Sansha hates capsuleers, wants them see extinguished from the universe. That picture in uestion is actually used in a PI chronicle where a capsuleer negotiates planetrights with a local goverment (well 'negotiate' they either agree or they get bombed). If you want a grimdark eve, dive in the old lore, there's some chilling stuff, specially when you think deeper on it.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#16 - 2014-08-07 21:48:32 UTC
Yes, the old prime fiction stuff is pretty rough. For example, any of the four "Methods of Torture" tales. Characters in the old fiction aren't very nice to each other at all.
Enya Sparhawk
Black Tea and Talons
#17 - 2014-08-09 05:13:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Enya Sparhawk
Xuixien wrote:
Been reading into the lore a bit more lately... am I to understand correctly that the colonists who came through the EVE Gate were in fact refugees?


I had never heard of the term 'grimdark' until now... (I even looked it up)

My understanding of why the colonist came through the EVE Gate in the first place was to escape from Earth origin; where every controlled system was stripped of its finite resources, planets were taxed beyond the breaking point and where mankind was on the verge of utter collapse (especially with wars between themselves for the remnants).

I guess from a beginning point of view, everything ahead of you looked bleak; then you find a wormhole to a whole new area of space... things become renewed in the human spirit...

Then again, everything around you collapses and again you as humanity are forced to stare at the grim dark of your existence ahead of you...

In the beginning, it definitely set the tone for one's outlook of the game...
Its hard not to keep thinking of the future as bleak, when that is all you as a race have known...




But just like everything else in this game, it too evolves...


I'd be curious to know if the Jove had anything to do with the collapse of the wormhole...

Fíorghrá: Grá na fírinne

Maireann croí éadrom i bhfad.

Bíonn súil le muir ach ní bhíonn súil le tír.

Is maith an scéalaí an aimsir.

When the lost ships of Greece finally return home...

Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2014-08-10 01:45:10 UTC
While the Jovians were one of the poorer groups spreading into New Eden at the time of human colonization - only being a superpower in comparison to the post-collapse civilizations that exist at the current date - this should not at all be taken to mean that all the human groups were "refugees". Refugees brings images of people moving for no reason except that their original homes were lost or cannot be returned to; many of the original colonists were drawn by the hopes of success and new development. Nobody was fleeing, except in the sense of leaving an overcrowded and overdeveloped Milky Way.

Additionally, the collapse of the EVE Gate has been repeatedly confirmed by CCP as nothing more than the inherent degradation leading to collapse of a natural wormhole, in turn causing the destruction of the stabilization equipment surrounding it.
Charles Muffins
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-08-19 01:54:31 UTC
CCP closed the wormhole just to collect tears from capsuleers everywhere.
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2014-08-19 07:22:36 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
To be fair EVE used to be more grimdark than it is now.

Capsuleers looked like this at one point


What if we still look like that and these portraits we have are just complex holographic overlays so that we retain our previous appearance?

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57

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