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Renting space as a one man corp.
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Calvin Recline
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2014-07-31 22:49:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sure, reliable npc corp alt without an agenda on general discussion.


because everything else I have added to the conversation has been incorrect, right?

These were my observations. The difference in 'open' spots in NA/boT renter space is just vastly different than CfC renter space. Killboards show as much.
Budan Kado
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-07-31 23:48:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Budan Kado
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sure, reliable npc corp alt without an agenda on general discussion.


Please point to the rules that state "Post with the character on your account with the most SP" or "Post with your main". There isnt one and just because I use a market alt to post with dosent mean I dont know what I am talking about.

CFC renter space is full of cloaking cyno alts. This is a fact.

Then again, when you are wrong the first thing you do is try to discredit the poster instead of actually saying "yes, our renter space is full of cyno alts at this time. We are trying to fix this situation." or presenting facts that dispute the poster.

Also, please have someone from your renter alliance do the public relations, you are doing nothing but pushing people way that would rent from you which is expected from a person that had to pay 10 bux to join an internet spaceship guild.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#43 - 2014-08-01 00:41:07 UTC
Budan Kado wrote:

CFC renter space is full of cloaking cyno alts. This is a fact.

Twisted
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Northern_Associates.
Pay particular attention to the slopes of the respective 'Members' graphs.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-08-01 00:57:17 UTC
Budan Kado wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sure, reliable npc corp alt without an agenda on general discussion.


Please point to the rules that state "Post with the character on your account with the most SP" or "Post with your main". There isnt one and just because I use a market alt to post with dosent mean I dont know what I am talking about.

CFC renter space is full of cloaking cyno alts. This is a fact.

Then again, when you are wrong the first thing you do is try to discredit the poster instead of actually saying "yes, our renter space is full of cyno alts at this time. We are trying to fix this situation." or presenting facts that dispute the poster.

Also, please have someone from your renter alliance do the public relations, you are doing nothing but pushing people way that would rent from you which is expected from a person that had to pay 10 bux to join an internet spaceship guild.


I rent a system for reasons & there is no cloaky camper in it. You have officially been discredited by the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal.

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Serene Repose
#45 - 2014-08-01 01:05:04 UTC
Wenda M'mbala wrote:
I don't know much about Null as I've always lived in WH and hi-sec,and I don't know much about renting either,but recently I've found myself wanting to try it out.However I'd like to do it on my own,with a one man corp and 3 accounts.So the big question is,if it is doable,but more specifically:

- Is it too much logistics for a single person?

- Are small corps being abused (camped) by gankers,because they're easy prey.

- Is it easy for a single person to cover the renting fees and still have enough ISK to PLEX at least one account and be able to lose some ships?. I would be doing pretty much everything the system has to offer.(-0.1 sec status).

EDIT: the renting cost +pos cost would between 1.5b -2.5b.

It depends on how big an army you can raise. Seems to me charging rent, and collecting rent are two different matters.
Maybe you fail to realize the "rental" system in EVE is more like a protection racket run by the mafia.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#46 - 2014-08-01 01:06:42 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Budan Kado wrote:


CFC renter space is full of cloaking cyno alts. This is a fact.


I rent a system for reasons & there is no cloaky camper in it. You have officially been discredited by the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal.

No one said every system has a cloaky alt in it, so nothing was discredited. "Full of" has variable definitions, it can mean CFC renter space has a lot of cloaky alts which is definitly true.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Period_Basis#npc
Three weeks ago half of the systems in that region were showing 1000+ kills on an hourly basis, and most of the rest were in the hundreds. Now, zeroes across the board with a few single digits here and there (at least at the time of this post).
Calvin Recline
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2014-08-01 02:04:23 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:


http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Period_Basis#npc
Three weeks ago half of the systems in that region were showing 1000+ kills on an hourly basis, and most of the rest were in the hundreds. Now, zeroes across the board with a few single digits here and there (at least at the time of this post).


Don't you dare go using facts and logic against the CFC; spinning those two things isn't a possibility so they'll get you banned instead!
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2014-08-01 02:15:18 UTC
Instead of renting and getting cloaky camped 24/7, go do anything you want in Goon space.

They're desperate trying to get their people to log in, and if you can bring more then 5 people you'll have lots of time before they can gather 900 F1 monkeys to deal with you.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-08-01 03:01:38 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Instead of renting and getting cloaky camped 24/7, go do anything you want in Goon space.

They're desperate trying to get their people to log in, and if you can bring more then 5 people you'll have lots of time before they can gather 900 F1 monkeys to deal with you.

I support this man's idea...even if there was way too much hurfblurf in the second paragraph.
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#50 - 2014-08-01 08:51:45 UTC
seriously not worth it. especially at the extortionate prices. Alliances price these based on a corporation constantly raking isk 24/7

tbh if it was up to me renting would be banised at the level its at, at the moment.

Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#51 - 2014-08-01 08:57:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tauranon
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Budan Kado wrote:


CFC renter space is full of cloaking cyno alts. This is a fact.


I rent a system for reasons & there is no cloaky camper in it. You have officially been discredited by the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal.

No one said every system has a cloaky alt in it, so nothing was discredited. "Full of" has variable definitions, it can mean CFC renter space has a lot of cloaky alts which is definitly true.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Period_Basis#npc
Three weeks ago half of the systems in that region were showing 1000+ kills on an hourly basis, and most of the rest were in the hundreds. Now, zeroes across the board with a few single digits here and there (at least at the time of this post).


A renter in PB can contact a renter in Vale or Branch and arrange a reciprocal agreement to rat in Vale or Branch, or they can move to system that isn't in/near a warzone. There is absolutely no way any serflord can prevent war coming to a region. They can only win it. If you have a "private" camper ie one that dislikes you, one of the best ways to dislocate them is to be able to rat 70 jumps away, which if you review my posting history is something I've repeatedly posted into cloaky camper threads posted by other renters.

During the Halloween war, considerable NA space was lost and NA renter space was routinely roamed and camped by goons - and I didn't find myself motivated to negative post about it, ie renting is and always has been a case of dealing with the prevailing null weather by doing your research on it and adjusting to conditions if where you are right now is currently nasty weather.

Both organisations currently have several corps that have previously rented from the other.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#52 - 2014-08-01 12:52:31 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
No one said every system has a cloaky alt in it, so nothing was discredited. "Full of" has variable definitions, it can mean CFC renter space has a lot of cloaky alts which is definitly true.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Period_Basis#npc
Three weeks ago half of the systems in that region were showing 1000+ kills on an hourly basis, and most of the rest were in the hundreds. Now, zeroes across the board with a few single digits here and there (at least at the time of this post).
So did cloaky campers do that, or is there just no ratting right now?

To be honest, I rarely see cloaky campers no matter where I'm heading these days. I figured maybe CCP had broken something.

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Calvin Recline
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2014-08-01 16:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Calvin Recline
Tauranon wrote:


Both organisations currently have several corps that have previously rented from the other.



Exactly. At this time, CfC has an large amount of it; that's all that anyone evr said. That's not bad mouthing; it's just stating facts as they are. We can't help if it CfC Slumlords get upset about facts being made. NA. and BoT have had their problems in the past with similar things, you described NA.'s situation quite well earlier. I left NA. rental lands at one point due to a similar issue; came back when it was calmer. months later.

Lucas Kell wrote:


To be honest, I rarely see cloaky campers no matter where I'm heading these days. I figured maybe CCP had broken something.



That must be why there are so many in Razor space and provi ;x.

I hear blops arent a thing any more.
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