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So there appear to be teams that make no effect...why?

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Blood doll Simalia
Gondolierums
#1 - 2014-07-31 11:01:18 UTC
I have a Tengu offensive bpc that I wanted to use, so I wanted to check on available teams. There are certain team members that give these modifiers:
- 3% reduction in ME on offensive subsystems
- 2% reduction in ME on subsystems

Thats 5% reduction, but its not applied. It seems it first does a -3% check and then 2% check which results in no bonuses, at least when it comes to this type of bpc. But then why is there such a team in the first place? A 20 run bpc requires 20 of each subsystem components, so a 5% reduction should bring that to 19 which would actually be useful? I wanted to check if I understand the team effects correctly, it seems only the PE bonuses are applied as they should.

Also, as far as hulls go (Tengu hull for example), there are teams with 'Strategic cruiser' and 'medium ship' modifiers combined that again do not work just because its not a stacked bonus. I would need to set 20 runs on that bpc to have any effect ...

In the end there are teams that give 'kind of bonuses' while in fact you are just paying the extra cost.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2014-07-31 12:37:43 UTC
subsystem teams don't work period, because they take only one of each part and you cannot reduce a part that only has one

don't ever buy a ME subsystem team
Kireitsugu Secheh
Les chips electriques
#3 - 2014-07-31 16:54:37 UTC
Wasnt the reduction things getting scaled over all runs?
Qoi
Exert Force
#4 - 2014-07-31 16:58:17 UTC
Kireitsugu Secheh wrote:
Wasnt the reduction things getting scaled over all runs?

Yes but that only works if one run requires more than one item because CCP loves special cases.
Single item requirements cannot profit from ME boni because some people concerned with the internal consistency of eve (Shocked) didn't like that you could build 10 Tech II items out of 9 Tech I items.

http://eve-industry.org

Kireitsugu Secheh
Les chips electriques
#5 - 2014-07-31 17:08:37 UTC
So it's mainly effective on t1 ships.
Not sure this market will resurrect..