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Thinking about giving Wormhole......I mean Wormspace life a go

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Bob JustBob
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-07-31 13:02:03 UTC
I'm thinking ahead a few months and trying to decide which ship would be more useful or likely to be favoured.

I'm thinking about training into either a comman ship (nighthawk) or a Loki.

My shield skills are perfect and my missle skills aren't far off either. I can already fly a Tengu and a Falcon. I mention these as I know they can be useful in WS.

Any suggestions on what I should skill up into? Other than scanning skills obviously.
minx1
Salamander Researches And Industries
#2 - 2014-07-31 14:25:15 UTC
Sounds like ure pritty much sorted tbh to cover a few angles
But then the next question is this

1, what am I going to do In there
2, have I got a choice of multi boxing
3, am I setting up shop or day tripping or a bit if both
4, joining a corp/alliance or solo venture
5, pve, pvp or both

Only after asking uresrlf them questions can u really decide on what u need to be doing
Bob JustBob
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-07-31 14:43:30 UTC
Good call, I didn't really post a lot of info that would be useful to know.

1/5: PvE & PvP - More PVE focused would be my preference to begin with while I picked up the basics of life in the hole.
2: I do have 2 accounts with a total of 3 characters. My indy toon which is very new is on the 2nd account, he's currently learning gas cloud harvesting to lvl 5. My hauler/PI toon is on my main.
3/4: I'd be hopefully looking to join a corp. Not sure what sort of status hole im looking for, probably need some advise on that. I am trying to read up on WS as much as i can of course.

I'd eventually like to skill into both ships, but im thinking which of the 2 would be more valuable to specific types of corps/alliances.

Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#4 - 2014-07-31 16:26:54 UTC
First you have to figure out what wh you will be going to. Then consider the bonus or lack of that the wh has. Nighthawk in an armor based wh isn't ideal / armor loki probably is. Then there is the type of static your wh has. C3 or less static => nighthawk can solo most things. C4 or above static and you'll want a bit more.

wh type, class and static have a lot to do with what you will end up doing.
Bob JustBob
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-07-31 18:11:03 UTC
Thank you.

I'm not sure what type of hole it would be. I think I'd prefer a Pulsar (see, I've tried to do some homework :))

Ship wise I've got a Tengu which I believe is capable of soloing C3's, admittedly a command ship would probably do the job better.

I was thinking more along the lines of what would help a corp. Command ships obviously give some great bonuses to pve/pvp fleets and help with DPS. But I know that Loki's are used a lot in bigger sites for their webs, and can obviously fit links instead if that's preferable. I think webbing lokis are generally only used in C5/6 though, and the chances of getting into a C5/6 corp as a WH noob might be pushing it.

I'm actually beginning to wonder if I've posted this in the right sub section lol.
Uanar Uanid
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-07-31 20:49:06 UTC
Bob JustBob wrote:
I'm thinking ahead a few months and trying to decide which ship would be more useful or likely to be favoured.


Depends on the corp or if you're going to try soloing, what kind of hole. In general the meta right now is armor heavy. That said, tengus are still prolific so there's a significant minority that won't mind you being a shield tanker. Talk to recruiters and be up-front about where your skills are. Have a working eveboard link and if you're green around the ears, don't be afraid to ask for advice if they don't offer it up-front.

As a caveat: A lot of young and old players alike think that WH space is enchanting and want to give it a go, but WH space takes a special kind of pilot. Some might say a masochist. As an on-again off-again wh dweller, I will admit it's a lot of work to live there. You'll spend a lot of time scanning and if you don't have an alt for that job, you'll also spend a lot of time re-shipping in a POS, and asking you friends to help you get back home when you're taking the pod express, which will be often when you're new.

Bob JustBob wrote:
I'm thinking about training into either a comman ship (nighthawk) or a Loki.

My shield skills are perfect and my missle skills aren't far off either. I can already fly a Tengu and a Falcon. I mention these as I know they can be useful in WS.

Any suggestions on what I should skill up into? Other than scanning skills obviously.


Lokis are fine all-around ships. Clutch loki piloting can get you into a lucrative escalation income stream. That said, you as a newbie aren't going to run strait into that job. What you'll most likely start with are the small beans in lower class holes. For that the ammo consumption of the loki is obnoxious. I don't see many nighthawk pilots around these days, but as a sub for a tengu that would probably work in C1/2 given that a drake can do those sites, albeit slowly. The falcon is always nice to have, but in general you'll spend way more time in the tengu if that's your ship du jur.

Outside of scanning, gas harvesting, analyzing, and the other basics, it's helpful to have PI skills (or alts) to contribute to the POS fuel fund. Outside of that, tank, core, weapon, and ship skills to taste and to suit your corp. I have two characters with over 150mil sp who can't perfectly fly everything they use on a daily basis (from triage carriers on down to various t3 ships, recons, dictors, etc.) so it's really down to what you need to fly sooner rather than later. Again, that mostly depend on what your corp flys or wants you to fly.

TL;DR: The first step, assuming you aren't attempting to solo, is to get in contact with prospective corps. They will fill you in on their particulars and how that relates to you. Ultimately, WH life is a lot of work, preferably team-work, and your enjoyment of it will come down to finding the right group of people to make your stay a good time rather than a series of chores.

Full disclosure: I moved out of my C3 corp recently and prior to that was in a C5/6 corp. I feel as though wh space is a good location for the player who is interested in the widest range of small gang content avalible, but the time-sink factor is excessive for players who only spend a few hours logged in per night, this problem is amplified significantly in a small group.
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-08-01 05:54:57 UTC
Part of a small group who play for a few hours a night in the AU timezone Blink

I have enjoyed wormhole space for a while now and if you can already fly a tengu you are probably fine for the lower class wormholes, If you are interested in the higher class wormholes then being able to fly a webbing loki in escalations is an easy start (these are armour fit though so start training them armour skills to)

Otherwise previous wall of text is pretty good advice. . . generally you have to work harder to make your own content in wormholes, but it's so much more rewarding when you 'win' Big smile

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Bob JustBob
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-08-01 07:42:32 UTC
Thank you all again for the advice. Really is much appreciated.

I doubt i'd be looking to live in WS solo, but certainly i'd like to be able to solo the sites. Therefore I rekon C3 and below is my likely destination.

I didn't factor in that the Loki would be armour fit but now that I think about it, that makes sense. Shield tanking it while carrying 2/3 webs is obviously not gonna work. As my armour skills are pretty much non existant, I may need to look elsewhere.

What I'm thinking now is that my Tengu will be sufficiant and I should maybe look towards just getting the rest of my scanning skills up to lvl4 instead of focusing on another ship?
Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#9 - 2014-08-01 23:59:38 UTC
Why wait? Your skills are likely more than sufficient for low class wormholes and where they are not you won't realize until you start living the life. Just be honest with yourself and the recruiters about what sort of activities you want to spend your time on and what you like to fly. If it turns out during the recruiting process that you are too pve or pvp focused for that corp express it and ask for a recommendation on where to apply.
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-08-05 05:57:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Altirius Saldiaro
Scouting and logistics will help out a corp a lot too.

Also, if you're new to w-space life, download the Down The Pipe podcasts and the most recent High Drag podcast. Host of DTP was on High Drag talking about wh life for noobs. What ships to bring and stuff.

http://feeds.feedburner.com/EveOnlineUltimateRSSlist

^^^there's a link to all the good shows. I download them all and listen while I work. Helps pass the time.