EVE General Discussion

I don't know much about Null as I've always lived in WH and hi-sec,and I don't know much about renting either,but recently I've found myself wanting to try it out.However I'd like to do it on my own,with a one man corp and 3 accounts.So the big question is,if it is doable,but more specifically:

- Is it too much logistics for a single person?

- Are small corps being abused (camped) by gankers,because they're easy prey.

- Is it easy for a single person to cover the renting fees and still have enough ISK to PLEX at least one account and be able to lose some ships?. I would be doing pretty much everything the system has to offer.(-0.1 sec status).

EDIT: the renting cost +pos cost would between 1.5b -2.5b.

I would not suggest renting as a one man corp. I don't know much about how the rental empires are managed or if they are open to such small corps, but it simply will not be worth it for you on an isk level to rent a nulsec system. You would be better off doing something else if you are looking at it from an isk standpoint.

And yes, you could get targeted by cloaky campers. They specifically look to camp renters because they are limited to a small area. Renters have the choice of renting or being evicted, so they are more likely to pay PASTA or whoever else is doing the cloaky camping a fee so they can go on with their ratting.

You will ruin anything you enjoy about the game trying to make a renters quota by yourself.

I suggest you just get yourself your ships and fits, and solo roam through that area, it can be done much more easily than renting by yourself.

Although I suggest a ship with a cloaking device. Helps with not getting gakked by the locals.

If you have 2-3 toons get all of them in remote repping tengus and steal DED sites from the local renters. But be warned, renters will get mad enough at their blues for running DED sites that the renters themselves don't even have the capability to run, so they will be even more angry with a neutral doing their DED sites. You will make enough isk to PLEX your accounts easily, just try to keep a low profile and do DED sites in quieter pockets.

Doing this also will be logistically challenging because you can't put the loot in a station when you are done, its up to you to get it to jita or wherever to sell it.

When you say you don't know about how rental empires are managed, you should probably have stopped there.

I rent a gurista -0.17 system solo, and have done so for 10 months. IMO solo is the preferred arrangement. There is ~3b in signature spawns per month, all of which can be sucked down at ~200m/hr - null works fine until you concentrate pilots into few systems, after which people have to rat for income, because the sigs run out.

Whilst delve and pb will have more activity, nobody is interested in camping a solo pilot who is on for a couple of hours per day, if they are in your system, they'll be there for your content - which is ultimately the cause of the various flavours of fights and standoffs that are a fun part of living in null.

3b a month in DED sites, when your rent and pos fuel is going to be at least half that, if not up to the full amount due to the tarded greater western renter rules/terms. It is pretty silly to pay that much a month so you can log in every day and pray to CCP that a combat DED is going to spawn in your system, when you can just as easily ninja DED sites from empty systems or systems where renter bears are just going to perma dock up when they see a non blue in local.

Just join the CFC. Then you can rat. There will sometimes be PvP but consider those times your rent. They will be considerably less than 8-10 hours a day, and the rest of the time you can become rich and awesome.

There is exactly 1 regular content ninja I see, he loses 2 months of 'rent' every time he loses a tengu and he bases out of geminate renter space anyway because of docking rights, allies, jump freighter services, intel etc. Most t3s are in fact not very random, they are heavy tackle and cyno fitted, and called on Intel as such

My pos bill and part of my rent is paid for by goo, and if nothing spawns then I gun probe anomolies. FYI it's 75m an hour even if I find nothing, and even if it wasn't on that basis, having a pvp hull on demand in the pos in a stationless system is worth the fuel bill in fun.

I see a whole of yapping about ninjas but so few actual ninja pilots that I'd suggest people actually don't want to put up with some of crap associated with it, you get good times and streaks of wtf do I do this for. I've effectively been deployed since April, no overhead tasks of more than a few minutes in that time, and I've not lost a plex boat at all. There are many people who just do not ever want to lose such a ship, which is probably another reason that's it's not as popular as you would expect.

If you a 20 char ishboxer, yeah, it's worth. Unless someone finds you.

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A one man corp has a snowballs chance in hell of defending a system they may rent.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but I know of no alliance rental that covers you defense, upkeep or logistics. You "could" hire a merc corp for protection if needed, but now you are no longer solo and in debt for several billion isk a month for rental fees and protection.