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Xavier Azabu
Half Empty
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#61 - 2014-07-30 17:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Xavier Azabu
Lucas Kell wrote:
Xavier Azabu wrote:
I don't know if this is meant to insult but it just shows that you don't really care that your corporation did an exploit involving faction warfare.

Supposedly several people have had accounts suspended, aside from the character in this thread's title.

The claiming of bounties here based on the volatile market price of an item being destroyed is certainly different. It will be interesting to see CCP's words. After reading the previous Dev response here: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/72972 - It doesn't seem like something was printed out of thin air. So actually this situation seems different from the exploit that your "giants" took advantage of.
Of course this was an exploit. I mean look at it. It clearly was a bug, which rather than report, your mate chose to utilise to make profit. He deserves what he got and some. At least the faction warfare exploit took time and effort to swing the entire market, and at the time was at most questionable. Your little friend just abused an oversight in the market pricing and thought he'd be able to get away with it, even though people have been banned for exploiting bounty mechanics before. Epic fail.


What makes him my "mate" or "little friend"?

You are glorifying the faction warfare exploit just like your fellow coalition member above. "Oh, at least it took time." What is with your "our exploit is better than this one" attitude?
We have yet to hear from CCP regarding this. But I'd love to see a clear explanation of why this was an exploit. Clearly there was some issue with the math involved to determine the value of an item that was destroyed. I want a clear explanation as to why this was a "bug" or "glitch" rather than simply a flaw in design. Other market items are determined by their own math. What makes this case so different? It was not an "isk printing machine" situation.

Retar Aveymone wrote:

the faction five thing was genius and involved really clever thinking to create something amazing

this involved taking ideas already established by the faction five and reusing them to exploit a different part of the game protected by the same pricegating mechanism


Why do you keep glorifying the faction five glitch?
Cherry Yeyo
Doomheim
#62 - 2014-07-30 17:19:25 UTC
#rekt

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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2014-07-30 17:20:10 UTC
Xavier Azabu wrote:

Why do you keep glorifying the faction five glitch?

because it owned hard enough that even ccp employees discussed how amazing it was, even though they couldn't allow it to stand
Kan'loch Lacoud
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2014-07-30 17:22:16 UTC
Xavier Azabu wrote:


Why do you keep glorifying the faction five glitch?


because he's trying to troll you.

(this is why SA hates you, goonswarm)
Johnathan Severasse
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society
#65 - 2014-07-30 17:28:55 UTC
+69

ccp pls
Xavier Azabu
Half Empty
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#66 - 2014-07-30 17:31:58 UTC
Kan'loch Lacoud wrote:
Xavier Azabu wrote:


Why do you keep glorifying the faction five glitch?


because he's trying to troll you.

(this is why SA hates you, goonswarm)


Troll or not, I find it funny that even when discussing exploits, there is a "glorious narrative" to follow.
Kan'loch Lacoud
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2014-07-30 17:35:01 UTC
it's that hard to get cfc members to even log into the forums these days
treideri
Interstellar kurrencies
#68 - 2014-07-30 17:36:48 UTC
Xavier Azabu wrote:
Kan'loch Lacoud wrote:
Xavier Azabu wrote:


Why do you keep glorifying the faction five glitch?


because he's trying to troll you.

(this is why SA hates you, goonswarm)


Troll or not, I find it funny that even when discussing exploits, there is a "glorious narrative" to follow.


Goons like to circlejerk on forums, this isn't news at 11.

Also #Freespace
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#69 - 2014-07-30 17:38:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
Django Askulf wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
For those asking, and not my words....



If that's an exploit which it sounds like and has not been fixed since, I'd suggest you edit your post to remove it.


Why is that?




Eve Online terms of service

No. 23

'You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website'.
Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
#70 - 2014-07-30 17:39:07 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Django Askulf wrote:
For those asking, and not my words....



If that's an exploit which it sounds like and has not been fixed since, I'd suggest you edit your post to remove it.


Why is that?




Eve Online terms of service

No. 23

'You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website'.



Bold part is the relevant part of course.


Well, I havent seen any news from them, so worry about yourself.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#71 - 2014-07-30 17:39:43 UTC
+1
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#72 - 2014-07-30 17:58:20 UTC  |  Edited by: El Space Mariachi
space might have been a noob who killed my corp but he was not a bad man and does not deserve this

rip

free space

420

gay gamers for jesus
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2014-07-30 18:03:41 UTC
So, he exploited. He was banned just like anyone else would be.

Deal with it.

For 21 more days.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Elftor
Broski North
#74 - 2014-07-30 18:04:39 UTC
Congratulations CCP for banning the first person to bring any sort of attention to your half-baked Bounty system. Good to know dev resources are going towards smacking down people finding the cracks in your unwanted Crius update rather than bot detection
Serene Repose
#75 - 2014-07-30 18:04:51 UTC
Don't bring hashtags in here, peasant.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Doritos God Legend
Perkone
Caldari State
#76 - 2014-07-30 18:05:20 UTC
CCP PLS FREE SPACE :SMITH:
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#77 - 2014-07-30 18:05:58 UTC
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Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#78 - 2014-07-30 18:06:23 UTC
Xavier Azabu wrote:
You are glorifying the faction warfare exploit just like your fellow coalition member above. "Oh, at least it took time." What is with your "our exploit is better than this one" attitude?
The exploit you think we are "glorifying" at the time it was done was not an exploit (though it was rightfully classified as one and the isk was removed). It took players manipulating the entire market over a sustained period of time to prove the concept. This instance is a guy using a bug from a patch to profit from a bounty, which has already been confirmed as an exploit. If you can't tell the difference, then you are in dire need of an education.

Xavier Azabu wrote:
We have yet to hear from CCP regarding this. But I'd love to see a clear explanation of why this was an exploit. Clearly there was some issue with the math involved to determine the value of an item that was destroyed.
The bounty system was changed specifically to stop people being able to claim their own bounties. It shouldn't be needed to be explained why going against that is an exploit. And the actual bug here is that the items in question didn't have their old transaction price updated, so they were 100x more valuable. This item wasn't manipulated, it was just a bug.

And you act like the faction five got to keep the isk. They still got punished for it, they just didn't get banned (or at least afaik they didn't, I can't remember), because prior to that case it was not an exploit to misuse the average item price. Now it is, so this idiot should have known better.

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Black Canary Jnr
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2014-07-30 18:06:48 UTC
Free space, he is a true ISboxer hero that we can all look up to.
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#80 - 2014-07-30 18:07:40 UTC
in space's honour im not going to kiss a girl until he is freed. its what he would do.

gay gamers for jesus