EVE General Discussion

Some very very good kind-hearted people have donated me enough ISK, I did not expected this will happen, this is a good example of human love.little coins can do a lot ! I will focus on frigate skills training and the skills you need them to fly a cruiser.

You are Gallente. So you are looking at either a Thorax, a Vexor or a Celestis.

The Celestis being the most unlikely as it is an E-War platform and will be the most expensive for you to fit effectively as a new player. Muon Damps are more expensive than T2 and knowing how to use them with scripts will require experience you can't buy for ISK. Knowing how to fit a Celestis beyond the Dampener e-war is also experience.

Vexor is a drone boat and a good one. Without Drone 5 to allow for full wings of Drones it is weak in damage and needs to be tanked to address that in PvE and needs to run away in PvP usually leaving the drones behind, adding a cost.

Thorax is a face melting beast but you don't have the luxury of escape if you find you aren't up to the task at hand. It can serve as a Rails platform but wasn't meant for that and like the Vexor will be weak.

Now that we have that out of the way, my question is, what Cruiser would you like to lose?

Once you have decided and done so, take a look at the Maulus. It's a lighter, cheaper and faster version of the Celestis. Take a look at the Tristan. It's a Lighter, cheaper, faster version of the Vexor and then take a look at the Incursus. It's a lighter, cheaper and faster version of the Thorax. They all do the same jobs accordingly and will allow you to train at a 10% loss ratio to their cruiser variant. In addition, you will find they fit your new player skills better because you are granted basic small gun and frigat skill levels you won't have in Medium and cruiser.

If this all seemed long winded and more than you bargained for? You will be run through like many other new people in EVE. We hope you enjoy your stay, no matter how brief it is.

Join one of the thousands of socialist mining corps and go on their ops in a barely fitted venture. Proceed to make enough isk by just sitting in a field contributing nearly nothing. While other pilots who have spent months to years improving their skills blindly fill your wallet with their hard work and investment. But seriously usually they give out millions or free ships like retrievers etc which is more than enough to afford a cruiser. And you should actually pay them back for their help and assistance as you climb the ladder. Your choice on the endless radial menu that is eve. The darkest option is to join a pvp corp and war them after they help you. And the lightest option is to help them build up and succeed as a corp along with your character.

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OK so you like cruisers but, being a noob, you should know that ship size is not everything. It's not the size really, it's what you do with it.

(Same idea works with women I'm told)


What you need to know early on, to avoid mistakes, is to know what your speed is, literally. Why cruisers? Are battle cruisers too slow for you? Maybe you'll like them instead. How about battleships? Or maybe a cruiser is a stepping stone for you on towards a bigger ship?

You like speed? How about frigates that can almost do cruiser damage - you can train up frigates instead and fly advanced frigates like assault frigates or stealth bombers. If you like speed and that fighter jet feel, you should not bother with cruisers.

Maybe you want to run missions and bring in ISK and loyalty points. As a new player you can be doing that in a few weeks, but then you would be best in a battleship with the optimal fitting and skills for that.


So, get connected with your play style, find the ship you like that fits it in fitting and attribute, then establish that as your target.

Then when you see the Show info option on your chosen ship based on your style and needs, look at the Mastery tabs. THOSE are the skills you will train. Having a goal for a play style and what you intend to use a chosen ship for lets you put a laser focus on the skills you need to train, and when you do that, you will be just as effective as a bittervet like myself, maybe even more so.


As others have stated the epic arc and the tutorial missions will provide you with ISK and some ships to get your beak wet in. I too highly recommend them. The worst mistake you can make is to dally around with your skills and your ship options. Your account has three slots, so don't go thinking you will be missing out if you don't "try everything" on one character (you can't, and you will waste a lot of time, maybe months)

Personally i would have started this scam with your struggle to save for a Battleship.

Check the Making ISK guide for more ways to make ISK :)

I can confirm the newbie love. I finished the tutorials, went to low sec, got steamrolled, got a 5 mil donation. Did it again a few times, and got a 50 mil donation. People here like newbies trying to poke them with Tech 1 frigates. It's science, I think.

I stand corrected . Edited the original post to reflect it.