Wormholes

Whose tested this on SISI?

If no one has, please give me an entrance to a c5 on sisi, preferebly with c5 static so I can try different effects.

mail me here and contract me a BM set for your c5 on SISI.

depends on their mood,

imho you still need lokis and a chimera/archon for the lokis, unless you intend to have no tank and web/paint with officer stuff... However they might actually be useful now, albeit a moros can take out a sleeper in 3 shots, so you better one-shot them (and still have worse cleaning rate due to damage overkill.. maybe with a clever launcher seperation - 2+1).

You could possibly do it with a 3 rigors(2 t2) and 6% implant and a strong crash booster bringing your explosionradius down to 805.

i dont see a reason to use it though over a moros.( for pve)

phoenix hits BSs for max damage with 2 webs and 2 faction paints from a max skill rapier if it's rigor rigged.
if it's not rigor rigged you still only need 2 webs but you need 4 paints to get almost max dps.
if youre using a loki you need 3 paints, or ewar strength fleet boosts.

max dps on the phoenix is about 11k without implants so it still does less dps than a moros.
here's a graph:

http://i.imgur.com/3dOou16.jpg

(the target in the graph is a megathron fit out to have the same sig and base speed as sleeper guardians.)

PS: note that these numbers are at max webbed down speed.
moros will do similar dps while target is slowing down, phoenix will not.

If you ONLY have a phoenix? Yes you can run sites. Is it worse then the other dreads? Probably. If it was better then the other dreads would the amount of bullshit you'd have to set up be worth it? No.

just want a c5 to run some tests in.
not eft warrior on phoenixes. :P

all the theory is worthless if you can't prove it anyway.

It's amazing how many people refuse to believe this. There are some things you need to account for, but EFT warrioring is almost the same as doing it for real... if the player makes no mistakes. I especially love the people who believe that testing something on the test server doesn't count also.

Anyways, as someone who has used a Phoenix to run c6 sites, I'll just say this: Don't. It simply isn't worth the hassle. If it's the only dreadnaught you have, it'll make you some ISK, but it will be slow, painful and slooooow.

Citadel Torpedos simply take too long to get from launch to boom, require more support than gun dreads do (for blapping sleepers) and still don't do enough damage when all that support is in place.

The Phoenix is good for blapping towers and other capitals. It is not good for blapping Sleepers.

The phoenix is quite good at blapping those pesky ishtars.

Though not so much sleepers. Better off just sticking like 6 paints on the thing and just paint a bunch of sleepers for your other dreads

mhmm, you keep telling yourself that mate.
judging by the last few posts, I spent 5min in EFT to figure out exactly what they found out by actually running site with the phoenix: it work, just not great.