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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-07-29 06:19:50 UTC
DUST 514 was Legion's Alpha test. More of a proof of concept game if anything. While DUST 514 was disappointing both to the players (and although they won't admit it, CCP) it does prove that it's possible to integrate the EVE severs with the severs of another game, even across platforms.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#42 - 2014-07-29 07:10:37 UTC
Gridloader wrote:
ccp remember one thing... I am an EVE player.... everytime you try put some other title... I feel cheated.... especially when you try to put it on different platform..... I dont like that you are waisting human resources on other games You have build your player base through this 10years.... but you are gliding on the edge... really... I bet there are others that want to take your place... and they see and listen prolly this forums too... to learn from your mistakes, So stop waisting our time and start to take care of your eve players... start repairing this game... not for 2years but now, because for 2 years you may wake up with nothing and there will be only fairy tales about eve nothing more...



Have you not been paying attention? what do you think ccp is doing? They are repairing eve. Fixing old crap that needs a refresh or a fix, and laying the ground work for new stuff.

It takes time to fix anything, but they are fixing eve now, not two years form now, now. It might just take 2 years for the average player who is not paying attention to notice.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#43 - 2014-07-29 07:18:38 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.

What to do next ???

I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.

yeah that should work out well

What happened to the vampire dressup game?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#44 - 2014-07-29 07:19:03 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.

What to do next ???

I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.

yeah that should work out well



There is a law of business that reads essentually "don't keep all your eggs in on basket"

It works well for manufacturing or in this case, programing houses.

White Wolf was bought in 06.. i think, might of been 05... anyway, making WoD was a BRILLIANT idea, no not sarcastic, it truly was brilliant. The issue is, if they had released it when the first set was done, and actually got something out there, they might of made money hand over fist as vampires were and still are EXTREMELY popular. The problem is, however, ccp scrapped it 3 times and started over, wrote there own engine, killed it, and bought a stock one.

I don;t blame ccp for wanting to expand, for wanting to make WoD and then Dust on ps3. The issues however, is hat they screwed up with WoD and a game that should of maybe taken 2 years to complete, took 8 years before being canned. They got themselves over stretched, and i hurt them. Now they changed focus, and have 2 new games coming, but in areas that maybe they can control better. But we will see.

Making WoD and Dust was smart movies in concept. Failing to get WoD out years ago, and not making Dust its full potential was stupid. If Dust had linked to eve in a meaningful way, it would of succeeded better. You would still have the eve players whining, but the point of dust was not for eve players, it was to expand and get new customers. They just should of made it so we cared.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Lido Seahawk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-07-29 07:19:07 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Why are you, a pc gamer,
concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?



The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it.

I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game.

May I have your stuff?
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#46 - 2014-07-29 07:48:03 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For the love of God CCP please just drop this crap and let us shoot each other in stations and board ships.

The players will do the rest.


its called starcitizen ;)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#47 - 2014-07-29 13:50:40 UTC
Lido Seahawk wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Why are you, a pc gamer,
concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?



The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it.

I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game.

You know you can filter them out of local right?

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Lido Seahawk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2014-07-29 14:13:59 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
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You know you can filter them out of local right?




Doh! Yes, of course, I knew that! What makes you think I didn't know that? I mean c'mon, everyone knows that! Sheeesh.....Straight






May I have your stuff?
Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#49 - 2014-07-29 14:39:51 UTC
Its been hit on, but i wanted a "go" as well.


Cross Platform! No. I am usually not a CCP critic, as they make an awesome game that ive enjoyed for over 7 years.

The shooter Idea is cool, I am completely for ANYTHING that expands the New Eden Universe. Legion, Valk, hell even WIS


That being said. I have no interest in playing with consoles. No interest in playing with console people. I dont want their community, ignorance, attention span, or the children that come with it. Not now, not ever. They shouldn't be here. Their supporters shouldn't be here.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Zero Sum Gain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-07-29 17:31:55 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

6) its really not RAIN doing this, its his cat who commandeered the keyboard.


Shocked they're learning to shiptoast.....God help us all.



+1 to autocorrect
Zero Sum Gain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-07-29 17:34:08 UTC
Lido Seahawk wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Why are you, a pc gamer,
concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?



The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it.

I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game.


You can remove bunnies from your local filter
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
#52 - 2014-07-29 17:37:07 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
So you have a PC based spaceship game with a strong fan following.

What to do next ???

I know ... a Vampire dressup game and maybe a first person shooter ... and lets move it from PC to a console.

yeah that should work out well

What happened to the vampire dressup game?


After 8 years of development they produced this lovely coat I'm wearing. And then they cancelled it.
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-07-29 17:45:07 UTC  |  Edited by: RAIN Arthie
Not so much upset with the whole console vs pc as it's the fact that they didn't do what they said they were going to. Orbital strikes, eve market, and DUST market come together. NEVER HAPPENED. Weather they are COD kids or hardcore EVE players, I don't care. Just don't make something and half ass it.

I'd prefer to FPS on console that way it removes strain from my computer, also so I have 2 different machines doing 2 different things.
mow hawk
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#54 - 2014-07-29 17:56:15 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
Lido Seahawk wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Why are you, a pc gamer,
concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?



The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it.

I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game.


You can remove bunnies from your local filter


Dust bunnies?

harhar.
Zero Sum Gain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-07-29 19:54:26 UTC
mow hawk wrote:
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
Lido Seahawk wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Why are you, a pc gamer,
concernd about dust 514, a console (a pita console to develop for at that) game?



The only time dust crosses my mind is when I enter a system and local is all sh*t up with dust players who have no relevance to me, other to make it a pita to see whats what in the system. And then I just hate on it.

I wish CCP would either make it relevant or get it out of the game.


You can remove bunnies from your local filter


Dust bunnies?

harhar.


You've... never heard them called that?
mow hawk
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#56 - 2014-07-29 19:56:35 UTC
No.....I haven't.

I live in a cave.
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2014-07-29 20:29:54 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Mahadiva wrote:
Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform.

When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool.



I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled.


I would love to carpet bomb a planet and wreck Dust players day Big smile

Why, thank you, Thing!
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-07-29 23:58:43 UTC
Kalishka Ashkulf wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Mahadiva wrote:
Biggest mistake was to make it PS3-exclusive. Ofc the game is terrible on that platform.

When project "Leigon" comes to PC, where all their fanbase is, I might actually play it. The premise is really cool.



I'm gonna disagree. The biggest mistake was not linking it to eve in a meaningful way. If eve players had given a **** about dust players, dust could of found its footing. But as we did not care, dust had no support when it stumbled.


I would love to carpet bomb a planet and wreck Dust players day Big smile



Problem was you could only use a frigate and only if a dust bunny called you in. Generally it was simpler and more effective for the dust bunny to call in an NPC strike. Also the particular dust bunny you were speaking to could suddenly redploy and reappear somewhere 30 jumps from your current location.

The eve/dust interaction was not exactly well thought out.
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-07-30 11:41:03 UTC
I would have to agree that dust players are quite dim. I like to call them COD drop outs. I hopped on yesterday hopeing for something engaging. I got my asz beat by players halo jumping and stalking spawn points. Not one person worked together and we lose time and time again. XP is very limited, even for a win. This game could have been epic.
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