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[Proposal] Rewarding skillpoints to testers and bughunters

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2011-10-21 22:06:31 UTC
MNagy wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
My personal opinion... They should get the amount of SP that would have been learned in the time of the Mass Test. As a thank you for helping kind of thing. these mass tests are really important for the fixing of problems before we get the stuff, and the more people that show up, the more test point there will be.


However, there should be no bonus to bug reports individually. Way too much room for exploitation... IMO.


Your toon still skills up on the regular server while you are playing on the other one.

You do not deserve double the sp vs any other player in the eve universe just becaue you 'Wanted" to go on the other server. You were not forced to go.




Very true....tranq doesn't stop when your off in SiSi land.

No SP's should be awarded...period.

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Blastfizzle
The Chosen 0nes
#42 - 2011-10-27 12:11:58 UTC
Is there anyone who dislikes the idea AND participate in the testing and bugreporting?

Or is is just 'I do not want others to have possibility I would not use; not because it would disbalance the game, but solely on principle.?'
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#43 - 2011-10-28 01:07:16 UTC
Blastfizzle wrote:
Is there anyone who dislikes the idea AND participate in the testing and bugreporting?

Or is is just 'I do not want others to have possibility I would not use; not because it would disbalance the game, but solely on principle.?'



It's a dumb idea and you should feel bad about posting it. Sorry kiddo.

~hi~

Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2011-10-28 01:30:16 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Blastfizzle wrote:
Is there anyone who dislikes the idea AND participate in the testing and bugreporting?

Or is is just 'I do not want others to have possibility I would not use; not because it would disbalance the game, but solely on principle.?'



It's a dumb idea and you should feel bad about posting it. Sorry kiddo.


This.

Classic Goon "hit"


But to be honest...I'm VERY sure many test on SiSi.
But we do NOT want to hand out SP's for testing.

Id rather see rewards be goodies like "stuff"

ISK....Ships...Modules....Aurum perhaps?

But not SP's. No Touchy....BAD MOJO!

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David Fightmaster
Golden Goose Privateers
#45 - 2011-10-31 02:15:13 UTC
ummmm... How can I say this nicely? HELL NOOOO!!!!!!
Blastfizzle
The Chosen 0nes
#46 - 2011-11-15 19:30:16 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Blastfizzle wrote:
Is there anyone who dislikes the idea AND participate in the testing and bugreporting?

Or is is just 'I do not want others to have possibility I would not use; not because it would disbalance the game, but solely on principle.?'



It's a dumb idea and you should feel bad about posting it. Sorry kiddo.


I don't. Sorry dad.
Blastfizzle
The Chosen 0nes
#47 - 2011-11-15 19:30:57 UTC
http://www.eveonline.com/mb2/news.asp?nid=4791

Next Mass Test on Thursday November 17, 2011
reported by: CCP Spitfire | 2011.11.15 11:58:54

The next mass-test on the Singularity server will take place on Thursday, November 17 at 20:00 UTC. We will be mostly testing the general performance of client and server for the Winter Expansion, but we will also gather more data for remapping systems to different server nodes. The SisiLauncher tool is available for the Windows client; for Mac users, please see this tutorial.

In particular, we would like to invite as many Mac users as possible to attend this mass test. Testing should last between 60 and 90 minutes. All participants will receive two million skillpoints on Singularity.

Please refer to this thread for more information about how you participate in the test, and this EVElopedia article for more information on mass testing.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#48 - 2011-11-15 19:57:09 UTC
Blastfizzle
The Chosen 0nes
#49 - 2011-12-06 16:58:09 UTC
Time Dilation mass test on Singularity - Dec. 8th, 20:00 UTC
reported by: CCP Guard | 2011.12.06 16:07:55

The next mass test will take place on our test-server, Singularity, on Thursday December 8 at 20:00 UTC. This time we are focusing on testing Time Dilation before enabling it on Tranquility.

The SisiLauncher tool is available for the Windows client, otherwise please follow the instructions on the Singularity page on the EVElopedia.
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#50 - 2011-12-06 20:30:14 UTC
**** no.
D'Tell Annoh
Machiavellian Empire
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#51 - 2011-12-07 16:22:43 UTC
Rawbone wrote:
Skill points, no. A vanity item like perhaps a Singularity jacket, sure, why not. No in game advantage and yet your participation would be duly recognized.
There's a good idea.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#52 - 2011-12-07 17:31:24 UTC
Actually, I feel that there's something of merit to this idea.

As has been stated, the job these bug testers do somewhat resembles the job that actual QA testers do, who are employed by the software company directly. The only difference in this case, is that those taking part in the mass SISI tests are i) not employed by CCP and ii) don't really get anything worthwhile out of the experience (ok, they get a load of Singularity SPs - yippee - and perhaps they log on with their mates and have a laugh).

As far as I can see, these testers are performing a task which CCP (or any other company) would ordinarily pay for. The least that CCP could do would be to give these people something small but tangible as a reward - hence why 10k (or thereabouts) SP wouldn't be such a big deal. Not gamebreaking really, when you think about it.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2011-12-07 17:34:45 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Actually, I feel that there's something of merit to this idea.

As has been stated, the job these bug testers do somewhat resembles the job that actual QA testers do, who are employed by the software company directly. The only difference in this case, is that those taking part in the mass SISI tests are i) not employed by CCP and ii) don't really get anything worthwhile out of the experience (ok, they get a load of Singularity SPs - yippee - and perhaps they log on with their mates and have a laugh).

As far as I can see, these testers are performing a task which CCP (or any other company) would ordinarily pay for. The least that CCP could do would be to give these people something small but tangible as a reward - hence why 10k (or thereabouts) SP wouldn't be such a big deal. Not gamebreaking really, when you think about it.


Maybe you should "think" about it a little more before you open that mouth of yours.

The last thing we need is a bunch of people logging into SiSi with the single motivation to gain more SP's and give CCP poor quality test results to waste their time and delay the repirations of the game.

As its been said before repeatedly.... if you had bothered to read and pay attention....grant aurumn or vanity items... but SP's are not to be considered an award unless restricted to SiSi itself.

Anything that gives an unfair advantage is a bad idea....especailly if that award wastes CCP's time in trying to get this game up and running smoothly enough for everyone else.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#54 - 2011-12-07 17:49:47 UTC
Roll


I read the ideas about vanity items. I thought your idea, handing out maps and whatever else, was silly, but the one about Aurum is OK.

Besides, other people have already mentioned the data-quality issue, and proposed counters to that.

At the moment, there is not much to entice people to these tests.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Tomytronic
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2011-12-08 11:21:39 UTC
This is a bad idea (tm)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#56 - 2011-12-08 11:51:51 UTC
Tomytronic wrote:
This is a bad idea (tm)



But, to be fair, EVE is so filled with bad ideas now this will hardly make a difference

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2011-12-08 14:40:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
2-3 hours of SP for attending a mass test, I wouldn't care. A person attending every single one would get one day ahead of someone who doesn't over the course of one year. I probably lose more SP than that due to getting podded and needing new implants, or forgetting to update my queue. The efforts of these people make the game better for everyone. Although I agree that AUR or perhaps a unique vanity shirt would be better.

Rewards for reporting bugs? No please. The last thing a programmer wants to do is to dig through fifty thousand bug reports saying "my ship no work".
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#58 - 2011-12-08 15:09:43 UTC
-1

Everyone wants more SP. No. Train like everyone else does. Remap, use implants, and plan ahead. End.

Now ISK, that I could see. Time on the test server is time not spent making ISK. Sure you are having fun, but why test missions or complexes when you could be making a profit from them? A flat "thank you" tick of 10 or 20 mil or so would be a nice enough incentive. Nothing to lose; a small token amount to gain.
Blastfizzle
The Chosen 0nes
#59 - 2011-12-14 07:16:56 UTC
The next mass test will take place on our test-server Singularity on Thursday, December 15 at 20:00 UTC. This time we are testing Time Dilation again to make sure that all bugs are really fixed. The SisiLauncher tool is available for the Windows client, otherwise please follow the instructions on the Singularity page in Evelopedia.

Testing should last between 60 and 90 minutes.
Blastfizzle
The Chosen 0nes
#60 - 2011-12-14 07:18:57 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
2-3 hours of SP for attending a mass test, I wouldn't care. A person attending every single one would get one day ahead of someone who doesn't over the course of one year. I probably lose more SP than that due to getting podded and needing new implants, or forgetting to update my queue. The efforts of these people make the game better for everyone. Although I agree that AUR or perhaps a unique vanity shirt would be better.

Rewards for reporting bugs? No please. The last thing a programmer wants to do is to dig through fifty thousand bug reports saying "my ship no work".


About the bugs - that's why I proposed that only first 10 well-writen reports about a given bug would be rewarded.