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Requiem for a POS

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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2014-07-29 05:20:51 UTC
Me, Myself and I

1man corps are funny, I think CCP have the numbers on them.

I will tell you what: I have 2 (two) 1man corps and I'm glad CCP got rid of standings for POS anchoring, not because I could not anchor the POSes but mainly because I brought many RL friends to play the game and I regret not inviting them to join my Corps to not screw the standings.

I'm trying to contact them and turn my 1man Corps in real corps, with ppl I trust and, maybe, I can have fun, again, interacting positively with other human being. My share of fun was interacting negatively, collecting tears, for a long time. Time to get on the bandwagon and build some themepark, I guess...

Fly safe.



If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2014-07-29 06:01:11 UTC
I actually took the time to read all that, because for once I totally sypathise with a complain.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-07-29 06:21:54 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
I actually took the time to read all that, because for once I totally sypathise with a complain.




You miss the point.


Even if someones complaints are completely valid and CCP has done the wrong thing, in GD all complaints are to be treated as "HTFU and stop whining" .

This is not because people in GD are CCP fanbois ... it's because telling someone to HTFU is worth "street cred" in GD even if you no clue at all about the particular topic they are posting about :D This is the GD idiom.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2014-07-29 06:23:56 UTC
The meta of general discussion reputation

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Elmonky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-07-29 06:56:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
OP, your POS now has an advantage that no station can ever touch: mobility.

Not only are all of your facilities better than what can be had in stations, but you can place them at will in systems that will give you outrageous rebates on your fees. Coincidentally (no… not really), these systems will generally also have plenty of free and cheap offices that you can use for long-term BPO storage.

Quote:
Move around you say? Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do.
This is really just you being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate. You willingly forsake a massive advantage handed to your chosen production method and are then upset that giving up that advantage (and ignoring all the minor ones) leaves you with no advantages.

You have not been kicked in the balls. You've been given a huge strawberry tart and chosen rub your genitals in it. There's a difference between the two.



Stop making sense! This is GD dammit!



Also OP. Come to W-Space. Its not much different. Except you can die.... a lot. But the space pixels are prettier, the red crosses stronger, and the players twice as predatory.


YOU WILL HAVE FUN! *Jedi Mind Trick*
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#46 - 2014-07-29 07:00:03 UTC
Dear op,
You know with a pos tower you still have a huge advantage over npc stations right? If you havent figured out how to use them right, then maybe you shouldnt be using them. No I won't give you a hint but if you do it right, you will have a huge advantage over everyone using npc stations.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#47 - 2014-07-29 07:06:25 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
The meta of general discussion reputation

We have a reputation in GD?

Oh...

In that case

*slowly backs to the door and slips away*
Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
#48 - 2014-07-29 07:12:25 UTC
The mad is strong here.

I have tin foil hat trained to 5.

Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#49 - 2014-07-29 09:10:21 UTC
Don Aubaris wrote:
Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do. This is my game. Not theirs.




So you own the intellectual property for eve now?

Frankly given the arrogant entitlement flowing form you, I would quit if that were the case.

Thankfully however its not your game, its CCP's and they can do what ever the **** they want with it.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.

embrel
BamBam Inc.
#50 - 2014-07-29 09:35:12 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:
Don Aubaris wrote:
Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do. This is my game. Not theirs.




So you own the intellectual property for eve now?

Frankly given the arrogant entitlement flowing form you, I would quit if that were the case.

Thankfully however its not your game, its CCP's and they can do what ever the **** they want with it.



so, either you really didn't get what he meant or you just jumped on the opportunity to tell somebody that he's whining & entitled.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#51 - 2014-07-29 09:44:06 UTC
embrel wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
Don Aubaris wrote:
Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do. This is my game. Not theirs.




So you own the intellectual property for eve now?

Frankly given the arrogant entitlement flowing form you, I would quit if that were the case.

Thankfully however its not your game, its CCP's and they can do what ever the **** they want with it.



so, either you really didn't get what he meant or you just jumped on the opportunity to tell somebody that he's whining & entitled.


But the OP is indeed both of those things though.

I mean hes throwing a tantrum because his POS doesnt work the same way it used to while completely ignoring the fact that with a bit of effort he could make a setup thats better than what he has now, ie the one hes throwing the tantrum about because it's no longer working, and has a bunch of other advantages to go with it.

I know its fashionable to treat most GD posts as ranting whines with little or no merit to their arguements but in this case its actually true.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#52 - 2014-07-29 09:46:49 UTC
Don Aubaris wrote:
That makes my corps office-cost go up from less then 50K per month to over 6Million in my current system. And for what? Do I get something in return? No. So screw that idea.
this made me die a little inside with laughter.
I tell you what, I will give you 6 million per month. There, now your office is free.

Honestly, it's not like you naysayers are making out. Its easily possible to make more isk now, and while a POS is arguably less useful with the loss of the remote research ability, remember that a 25% time saving is also a 25% fee saving, and when the actual POS rebalance comes, there will be even more reasons to use it.

As for your refining, the POS refines at about the same level that you used to get for your ore, so you've lost nowt there. As for selling to "null cartels", why not? Have you seen the price of compressed ore? You get more than you would ever have got for your ore just by compressing it and shipping it to Jita, because null groups have no alternative. They can't just mass buy minerals and make a bunch of modules with a single alt like they used to, they either have to mine in highsec, or painstaking buy regular ore (which will be on the market less now compressed ore prices are up) then compress it themselves.

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EnacheV2
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2014-07-29 09:52:47 UTC
there is so much to do in EVE so try new things

Alavaria Fera wrote:
The meta of general discussion reputation


i watched you posting a lot of nonsense in every GC thread. go get a job and make you mother proud.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-07-29 10:01:06 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
I actually took the time to read all that, because for once I totally sypathise with a complain.




You miss the point.


Even if someones complaints are completely valid and CCP has done the wrong thing, in GD all complaints are to be treated as "HTFU and stop whining" .

This is not because people in GD are CCP fanbois ... it's because telling someone to HTFU is worth "street cred" in GD even if you no clue at all about the particular topic they are posting about :D This is the GD idiom.


Kinda, sorta, maybe but much like Jita, you only need to block 20 people to turn it in to a dead zone.

In truth there are plenty of logistical benefits to running a POS. Mostly related to time factor. If you look through the manufacturing arrays they all carry anywhere from 25% to 50% bonus to job time. Those really don't benefit a small manufacturing corp though. One that isn't building from huge corp tax or moon goo empire funds. Smaller corps actually go out and gather their own minerals when the option is available and it's time consuming enough that 4 hours or 8 hours for a copy isn't a factor in production. Markets in EVE also tend to work in 4 to 6 month cycles so there is no rush to get stuff to market. In practice if you are doing anything in EVE with a sense of urgency you messed up.

I don't know if this is ground work for something better but in current EVE the system is useless because the benefits are all geared toward a game that isn't in play.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#55 - 2014-07-29 10:09:30 UTC
embrel wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
Don Aubaris wrote:
Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do. This is my game. Not theirs.




So you own the intellectual property for eve now?

Frankly given the arrogant entitlement flowing form you, I would quit if that were the case.

Thankfully however its not your game, its CCP's and they can do what ever the **** they want with it.



so, either you really didn't get what he meant or you just jumped on the opportunity to tell somebody that he's whining & entitled.



Or option C, he's whiney and entitled.


"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.

embrel
BamBam Inc.
#56 - 2014-07-29 10:30:45 UTC
Mythrandier wrote:
embrel wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
Don Aubaris wrote:
Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do. This is my game. Not theirs.




So you own the intellectual property for eve now?

Frankly given the arrogant entitlement flowing form you, I would quit if that were the case.

Thankfully however its not your game, its CCP's and they can do what ever the **** they want with it.



so, either you really didn't get what he meant or you just jumped on the opportunity to tell somebody that he's whining & entitled.



Or option C, he's whiney and entitled.




Obvious is obvious. Don't need anybody to point it out.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#57 - 2014-07-29 10:59:17 UTC
embrel wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
embrel wrote:
Mythrandier wrote:
Don Aubaris wrote:
Well...no. I bloody hell will not do what those Devs want me to do. This is my game. Not theirs.




So you own the intellectual property for eve now?

Frankly given the arrogant entitlement flowing form you, I would quit if that were the case.

Thankfully however its not your game, its CCP's and they can do what ever the **** they want with it.



so, either you really didn't get what he meant or you just jumped on the opportunity to tell somebody that he's whining & entitled.



Or option C, he's whiney and entitled.




Obvious is obvious. Don't need anybody to point it out.


Yes. It is rather obvious he is entitled.

Glad we had these posts to establish that.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#58 - 2014-07-29 12:15:53 UTC
Don Aubaris wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Aah...the entitlement is strong in this Padawan.


yes...This one is actually putting real money in this game.
This customer has a backbone.
This customer is not afraid to yell 'The emperor is naked'.

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes for the forum-trolls)



Well, most of your fellow forum posting customer peers think you are full of it. In a perfect world CCP would let us file support tickets under the topic "this guy is butt hurt, CCP please screw him some more".

No one would care even if you got 'nerfed', the fact that you have actually received a BUFF (that is "would have received a buff", if you were the kind of person to reject actually putting in some effort) is what makes your entire topic silly and dumb. What worse is that you seem proud of being lazy and reactionary.

Oh well, as we like to say where I'm from, it's your funeral. Your choices here are 'adapt to the new stuff and profit', 'don't adapt and suffer the consequences' or 'leave'. Of course, in fine impotent whiner fashion you chose D - 'whine about it on the forums like that will do any good'.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#59 - 2014-07-29 12:19:43 UTC
Don Aubaris wrote:
Guess what. My money has also mobility. And it ain't walking to CCP for the next months.
It's CCP that has/is being obstinate by forcing ideas on people that are nonsense.
Good news: you're not being forced.
You actively choose to be inefficient, and then you complain about the inefficiency you've chosen. That is on no-one but you.
Conar
My Wormhole Hurts
#60 - 2014-07-29 12:47:39 UTC
I keep climbing and falling! Your wall of text was way too high.

I think what was done was the right thing to do.