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Burn Okkamon

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#61 - 2014-07-26 18:46:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Veskrashen wrote:
Oicx, 02 March - 06 March. This is Oicx Round 1.

1. 1100 pilots lost 2200 ships and 300 pods, totaling 42.5 Billion isk.
2. 157 Gallente vs 262 Caldari, plus 400 neutrals. I put TEST and BNI in the neutral category.
3. Gallente lost half of the 600 ships fielded, totaling 9.2 Billion - including one dread.
4. Caldari losses were again around 73% of the 775 ships fielded, totaling 19.3 Billion.
5. Neutrals including BNI and TEST lost half of the 650 ships fielded, totaling 7 Billion.
6. If we add TEST to CalMil and leave BNI neutral, we get 315 pilots for Caldari, a loss rate of 75%, and 20 billion in losses.

Definitely hurt for your side.

One thing I'm noticing is that even when outnumbered - which is pretty much always - the Gallente tend to inflict a much higher loss ratio on their opponents.

In other words...

... DAMN we're good!


In reality, higher numbers of individuals doesnt always mean we are outnumbered. They could have twice as many people logged in for half the time and on average populations would be equal.

Though, the talk of us outnumbering cal mil except certain points in the day is usually a perception error.

Thanatos Marathon wrote:
You may want to actually go look at the killboards before making statements that are easily proven false.


I think by engagements he means each time one of you jumps into their 15 man insta lock camp in a single frigate.
Abyssum Invocat
Yet Another Tax Haven
#62 - 2014-07-26 19:47:18 UTC
Our derp atrons shall blot out the sun!
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#63 - 2014-07-26 20:36:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
I didn't say anything about your pilots. And you Black Fox Marauders guys don't have a whole lot of room to talk when Crimson Serpent stomps you in the vast majority of small gang engagements.

Joining you guys would be a downgrade.


You may want to actually go look at the killboards before making statements that are easily proven false.

On top of that you guys aren't as active (or aren't pvping as much) as we are so there really isn't a whole lot of direct small gang engagements between YNOT and Crimson Serpent.

Size on the corps are pretty close (you guys have more atm), so comparing killboards should show you guys stomping us on kills, isk efficiency and BC points, right?

[Removed Killboard Links. They are only allowed in Crime and Punishment. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode]

Having a hard time finding you on the recent corps on BC

I was talking about direct engagements between our two corps. Two small fleets actually fighting it out, not general corp statistics.
Holliava
The Salty Clams
#64 - 2014-07-26 21:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:

I was talking about direct engagements between our two corps. Two small fleets actually fighting it out, not general corp statistics.


Sorta like this?

[Removed Killboard Links. They are only allowed in Crime and Punishment. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode]
ALUCARD 1208
Naga's Be Trippin
#65 - 2014-07-26 21:11:26 UTC
Subsparx wrote:
I just hope that this campaign is over


just warming up
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#66 - 2014-07-26 21:31:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Holliava wrote:
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:

I was talking about direct engagements between our two corps. Two small fleets actually fighting it out, not general corp statistics.


Sorta like this?

[Removed Killboard Links. They are only allowed in Crime and Punishment. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode]

Between complications with TS and training a new character, that fight was a bad fight.

To be honest, 'm surprised you guys even went after us. You usually just run.

Also, where's the Algos?
Subsparx
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#67 - 2014-07-26 21:32:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Subsparx
Kills over a period of 4 hours does not equal a head to head small gang fight ;)

EDIT: The next person that starts whispering me when I am trying to fight somebody is fired.

CEO of Crimson Serpent Syndicate - www.crimsonserpent.com

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Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#68 - 2014-07-26 21:43:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Thanatos Marathon
Not sure why the algos isn't on there. Just remember Jennifer that you asked for more fights vs Y NOT, ask and you shall receive (if you are undocked and around our common roaming area).

This reminds me of when someone in your alliance public channel said Okkamon would never fall a few weeks ago when I said we would take it.

EDIT: Maybe they thought I was joking, but they should realize I don't have a sense of humor, nor do I play eve for fun. Serious time all the time :p
Holliava
The Salty Clams
#69 - 2014-07-26 21:46:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Subsparx wrote:
Kills over a period of 4 hours does not equal a head to head small gang fight ;)

EDIT: The next person that starts whispering me when I am trying to fight somebody is fired.


CRIMSON: The Earth is a cube.

BLFOX: It is demonstrably not a cube.

CRIMSON: It is a cube, except for the round bits.

BLFOX: It has no edges.

CRIMSON: The Earth is an edgeless cube with some spherical attributes.

BLFOX: You're just going to keep adding conditions to your original statement to avoid admitting you were wrong, aren't you?

CRIMSON: Yes.

EDIT: More accurate battle report: [Removed Killboard Links. They are only allowed in Crime and Punishment. -ISD Dorrim Barstorlode]
Subsparx
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#70 - 2014-07-26 21:59:43 UTC
We've got a bunch of derptrons and derplins uglying up my corp hangar right now that need losing. I say bring it on. ;)
The sooner I run out of these and can get back to running ships that don't suck the better.

CEO of Crimson Serpent Syndicate - www.crimsonserpent.com

Chairman of Heiian Conglomerate - www.heiian.com

Owner of FWC - www.factionwarfare.com

Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#71 - 2014-07-27 04:02:30 UTC
If you have derptrons for sale in Okkamon I'll buy em from you at standard rate.
Subsparx
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#72 - 2014-07-27 06:40:13 UTC
Not in Okkamon no.

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Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#73 - 2014-07-28 13:41:16 UTC
Did Bohica already drop from Caldari FW? If so that means probably no burn Uuna Cry
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#74 - 2014-07-28 14:06:06 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Did Bohica already drop from Caldari FW? If so that means probably no burn Uuna Cry


Get back here! You cannot quote LoTR and then leave!

There was once an alliance between the Caldari and the Amarr we are here to honor this alliance! Paragraph 8, last line.

(In all seriousness, probably standings issue)
Samuel Triptee
Drunken Beaver Mining
#75 - 2014-07-28 19:34:12 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out?


You would be surprised, I think, given the logistical coherence on your side, how many Caldari assets are not there. The last couple of days actually involved a whip-round to buy and move in the ships needed for that day. Rather astoundingly, many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence.



Wait a minute... WAIT A FREAKIN MINUTE!!! Who was handing out free ships?!?!?!?!

Whenever I was on there were no freebies being handed out... there were a few loaner BSs being lent. But, you loose the ship you pay the owner.

FREE SHIPS???

Please let me know next time and I'll give Thanatos my 2 week notice before dropping corp...

Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today?

Samuel Triptee
Drunken Beaver Mining
#76 - 2014-07-28 19:50:27 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
EDIT: Maybe they thought I was joking, but they should realize I don't have a sense of humor, nor do I play eve for fun. Serious time all the time :p


We've been meaning to talk to you about this Thanatos... the seriousness all the time thing is really wearing people out.

Just look what happened in Okkamon... All those ships destroyed, billions of ISK converted to thousands of shiny little explosions, people losing sleep, pilots becoming a cohesive fighting unit, twitch drama... the list is long.

And all of this because you have no sense of humor... Cool

Have You Hugged Your Frigate Today?

Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#77 - 2014-07-28 20:18:21 UTC
You can't just blame me. There were others who don't have a sense of humor involved as well.

Also, we handed out a bil worth of free ships thanks to Phox.
Epikurus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2014-07-28 20:31:17 UTC
Samuel Triptee wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out?


You would be surprised, I think, given the logistical coherence on your side, how many Caldari assets are not there. The last couple of days actually involved a whip-round to buy and move in the ships needed for that day. Rather astoundingly, many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence.



Wait a minute... WAIT A FREAKIN MINUTE!!! Who was handing out free ships?!?!?!?!

Whenever I was on there were no freebies being handed out... there were a few loaner BSs being lent. But, you loose the ship you pay the owner.

FREE SHIPS???

Please let me know next time and I'll give Thanatos my 2 week notice before dropping corp...


So when you guys are flying out of a POS, how the hell do you keep the accounts straight on hundreds of frigs and dessies that people are hopping in and out of?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2014-07-28 21:05:20 UTC
Epikurus wrote:
Samuel Triptee wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out?


You would be surprised, I think, given the logistical coherence on your side, how many Caldari assets are not there. The last couple of days actually involved a whip-round to buy and move in the ships needed for that day. Rather astoundingly, many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence.



Wait a minute... WAIT A FREAKIN MINUTE!!! Who was handing out free ships?!?!?!?!

Whenever I was on there were no freebies being handed out... there were a few loaner BSs being lent. But, you loose the ship you pay the owner.

FREE SHIPS???

Please let me know next time and I'll give Thanatos my 2 week notice before dropping corp...


So when you guys are flying out of a POS, how the hell do you keep the accounts straight on hundreds of frigs and dessies that people are hopping in and out of?
It's easy when it only takes a dozen or so Galmil pilots per tz to flip a system.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Subsparx
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#80 - 2014-07-28 22:43:15 UTC
Samuel Triptee wrote:
Epikurus wrote:
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
How long till someone sets up an asakai/okkamon gate camp and/or cloaky bumpers and gankers on station, to destroy the caldari assets that are being moved out?


You would be surprised, I think, given the logistical coherence on your side, how many Caldari assets are not there. The last couple of days actually involved a whip-round to buy and move in the ships needed for that day. Rather astoundingly, many Caldari corps do not keep several thousand plexing frigates in their home systems to hand out free to people who join the defence.



Wait a minute... WAIT A FREAKIN MINUTE!!! Who was handing out free ships?!?!?!?!

Whenever I was on there were no freebies being handed out... there were a few loaner BSs being lent. But, you loose the ship you pay the owner.

FREE SHIPS???

Please let me know next time and I'll give Thanatos my 2 week notice before dropping corp...


My corp alone fit up 16 billion isk in ships to hand out for free during the engagement in Okkamon.

Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Did Bohica already drop from Caldari FW? If so that means probably no burn Uuna Cry


Bohica Empire has left Faction Warfare. Into the Ether, which was one of the main corps in the alliance, has joined RAZOR alliance. The main group still remaining in Bohica is Windrammers but I don't know what their current plans are. Rots Mijnwerker, CEO of Into the Ether is the one that made the LoTR quote.

CEO of Crimson Serpent Syndicate - www.crimsonserpent.com

Chairman of Heiian Conglomerate - www.heiian.com

Owner of FWC - www.factionwarfare.com