EVE General Discussion

Hello.

As a happy Marmite member with over 220 wars right now, we are used to see war targets farting around everywhere. Well that's all fine. The problem is when i want to see the war targets in the 'War Target' overview tab i have that was working for me like a year ago or so i think (it might have been because the corp or alliance i was in at that time was setting 'terrible standing' to all we war dec'ed then). This is to ease up the fighting against war targets a bit where you only sees your war targets and not 98567395780437897397 other neutrals in the same overview tab.

As i do understand, i now have to set a personal 'terrible standing', or the corp / alliance have to set a 'terrible standing' to each corp / alliance we are at war with (and then check the 'terrible standing' for the 'War Target' overview tab to see only the war targets then) before i can get the war targets to show up in my 'War Target' overview tab right?

In that case with over 220 wars going, it's going to be a pain in the ass to change the standings to all of our war targets to terrible standings when we war dec someone and then have to remove the terrible standings from our war targets when the wars is over. This is driving me nuts. And i'm sure i'm not alone in being nuts about that.

Is there any other easier ways of getting the war targets to show up in our 'War Target' overview tab?

If no, then you CCP needs to sort this **** out and make this much easier to change and so on. If we only have like 10-15 wars, it wouldn't be an issue to set 'terrible standing' to our war targets, but when someone like us in Marmite have over 220 wars, it's going to be really painfull to sort that out.

If you other mercenaries are doing wars in empire and have the same problem, then let us know by writing here and let CCP see that this needs to be fixed. Yes, i had a fully working 'War Target' overview tab like a year ago where i only saw my war targets there like i said over about this.

But i'm not 100% sure if the standings was the reason that it was working that time, so that's why i'm asking about this now.

I thought there was an filter option for "is at war with you corporation". I still see blinky red stars (thats how it was default) that show up when i skitter through jita. Or am i completely off-base on what you are referring to?

There is. The problem is that the logic behind the filter has a bunch of AND statements where an OR would probably be a better choice (and vice versa, just to make everything extra annoying), and that we only have a binary value for something that should have three states ("must have", “must not have”, “may have”).

So it's very easy to either set a combination that filters out entries you want to see because they accidentally fail to comply with one of the flags you've set, or you end up with far more than you want to see because you can't narrow it down without triggering the first problem. Standings, in particular in combination with anything else, have been a headache since roughly forever and It was not until recently that we had a distinction between neutral entities and no-standing entities, for instance.

My first guess for the OP's problem would indeed be that his filters are partially based on standings and no-one is setting them correctly any more.


e: Bah! Too slow. ^^ Describes the problem better: if you don't set up what kind of standing the target is supposed to have, it won't show up. There is no setting for “ignore standings because they're not relevant, you numpty”.

Yeah, i can confirm that to.

This needs to be fixed.

A query builder like the one in the inventory would be nice… 🙏

Whatever it is, it must move away from the opaque boolean logic it has now.

It baffles me every day how a game, that has been in constant development for over 10 years, still has such broken core UI elements such as the overview.
I don't even want to think about that laggy thing of an action bar...

Anyone else have anything to say / add about this?

Personally, i would like to get an answer from a CCP dev about this. Also if this is going to be fixed or not.

Taht selection sometimes fail and do not show the wartargets. It triggers when you enter a system and will only fix when you jump out. It is rare.. but I face it once every month at least.

What? Camping a hub all day long while my real life goes by is literally the most fun you can have in EVE!

This has been around since the beginning of time and it never got sorted, because high sec wardecs don't mesh too well with the "we want more players so we'll allow for easier carebearing" which has been changing the game for years now, apart from that 0.0 sock puppet CSM don't care.