EVE General Discussion

How about the fact that in the ganking thread it was shown that the risk of being ganked in the most ganker riddled systems in high sec amounted to less than 1%.


Also here is the latest economy report for 2014

Things get built in high sec and killed in null. Burn jita saw lots of things killed over the few days it ran but it was dwarfed by the B-R slaughter which lasted a day.

No thanks, to busy having fun.

What kind of 5th grade nonsense is this btw. YOU posted an opinion contrary to fact: basically that your 'idea' of danger has nothing to do with danger at all. if you don't like your opinions challegned by facts, stop posting opinons that are the opposite of fact. Of course i understand that you won;t do that because it's easier to just blame others when you are wrong, right?



As opposed to you nothing lol? How stupid is that? it's you actually saying "well, I may have zero proof of my claims, but your actual proof is old so there!!!!".

You claimed that null has kills because the collations are slap fighting each other. It was an ignorant claim, null has always been less safe (in every measurable way) than high sec, period. You are welcome to prove otherwise, but until you do your opinion will be the unsupportable lie that it is.



I'm sure you can look at CVA's killboard for yourself. But what has that to do with anything? you suggested that Null only has more killing than high sec because of N3/PL and CFC. If that were true, then the link I posted would not exist.



To smart people, the obvious answer to this is "be prepared all the time" lol. EVE is potentially dangerous everywhere, it's not EVEs/CCP's/Null sec's fault that some people see the words "high sec" and think "total safety.

This is what i do when I mission in high sec in a macharial with a fit not worth ganking, which has resist rigs and a damage control (instead of rigs/mods for 3% more dps) and a flight of ECM drones at the ready.

What you are saying here is the basis of the dumbest elief in all of EVE, the idea that somehow the section of New Eden with the fewest pvp kills and magical space police that blaps ANYONE who aggresses a non war target is somehow 'safer'; than the space where the most pvp kills occur and in which there are no magical space police.

The analogy I use is Beverly Hills vs Compton (well, sometimes Compton, sometimes South Central LA). Beverly Hills has one of the lowest crime rates in America, Compton has one of the highest. Yet by your thinking, somehow Beverly Hills is less safe than Compton because "at least in Compton you can see the crips or bloods coming at you, whereas in Beverly Hills, anyone could dress like some chick named buffy and drive a BMW but really be someone trying to kill you" lol.

The whole idea is stupid on it's face bro, sorry to tell you that. Feel free to prove otherwise.

they're 'making out' that highsec is not more dangerous than nullsec.

Yet, CCP have stated that null is more dangerous and that null sees the most ships killed and provided many graphs and statistics that show this year after year. WH are even more dangerous.

Doesn't matter, that's still a massive loss to take in a 24 hour period. Nobody easily replaces that kind of loss.




You said top 10%.

If we are now going to add everyone onto that list then we will also add the grenade spamming, bullet spraying C4 abusing crew in those other games.

You sir are wrong and are talking nonsense all graphs show that more ships are killed in high sec than low or null. That is fact. However- is due to the % of people in high sec opposed to in low and null Their are a hundred times more players in high than null and low combined so of course more ships will die their. Most are due to war decs, or lazy afk miners / auto piloters thinking they can make isk while watching net flix with out being ganked.

I could but I am far too lazy- do it your self... open dot map and look at ships lost. You will see that the trade hubs Jita rens Amarr and dodixie and their surrounding systems are massively more populated and violent than the rest of eve. The stats are their in game in black and white for you to see.

The Gist of this is "CCP is always changing EVE". Yet everyone else is proclaiming that EVE is 'stagnant' lol.

This is another one of those "look at your self in the mirror" situations. If you don't like an evolving game situation, why would you play a game that HAS to evolve to survive?

CCP doesn't promise you comfort, they provide a challenging and changing game. If you don't like change, a game under constant development is a bad choice of pastime.

Risk versus reward is a bald faced lie.

Some of the most dangerous missions in EVE are Level 3 and level 4 Courier missions. 9 out of 10 put you in high traffic low sec pipes in an Industrial, at stations that remain static and are easy to camp. At no point will you ever make more than a million ISK an hour doing them. Due to the idea that because you aren't engaged in a PvE like activity they are somehow seemed as non combat they were made useless to the enth degree.

More over, they are a Dev troll because only a noob would even try to do them, not understanding they are being set up for a full on PvP experience they have no chance of winning because they are doing industrial back missions.

No, they don't. For the reasons I just gave, They are insanely high risk for less then a mill an hour. Every so often a new player will fall victim to them. Wasting a few days doing the 20 or so level 1's it takes to get to level 2's where they then get introduced to wall of low sec and soon figure out it was a shabby gimmick.