EVE General Discussion

Dude, what the **** are you even talking about?

if i didn't know better, and i'm not at all suggesting that you were treating this issue with anything less than the full seriousness, respect and regret it deserves, but if i didn't know better, i'd have sworn you were enjoying this

I think it could be argued, by some, that this is one of the most fun-nest features of EVE.

Surely CCP is fundamentally aware of the geography of New Eden that creates these chokepoints. Wouldn't you say that the design is completely intentional?

... "There is no limit to what a man can achieve if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." R. Reagan

I must say that you have a talent for writing optimistic recruitment posts. Sorry your project hit an impasse.

... "Success is maintaining enthusiasm between failures” W. Churchill

Fitting rigs to a ship is no longer dependent on skills.

You're welcome.

There are many players, corps and even alliances who stay under the radar. The term usually used is "irrelevant".

That was an excellent reply, and you see what the issue is with Eve, now I am keeping my accounts just in case, I am not giving my stuff away, and I will keep an eye on Eve. In terms of planting a character in there to cause drama that may well be what happened, however there was already some issues before he arrived.

I would really like to know what she is planning to do, the important one would be a huge increase in NPC 0.0 space, or some sort of base that can not be scanned down, another would have to be some log out timer for inactive characters that are cloaked, they should just disappear after a certain time, 2 hours should do it, also they really do need to police the IP address used to logon and compare to other accounts, its not that difficult to use SQL to compare such data.

At last some of the people at the top of alliances are coming around to farm and fields in terms of sov, I had suggested that you had to keep the local pirates down otherwise your sov structures become weaker and easier to kill, perhaps losing their timers and EHP and after while they just get taken out by a pirate fleet.

The issue with this game is that people win by making it not fun, its very bad for the game, so people stop logging in or log in just to sit in the station, and even after a while that desire fails and they think why do I pay 14.95 to do this, I don't enjoy the PvE and the mechanics used like this are just so lame. Most of the idiots think ah HTFU, but its a game, it should be a challenge, but if the mechanics make it impossible and a futile exercise then there is no point in bothering, as I had got to the stage of no longer feeling it s fun to resist such lame tactics, then I said nah, lets go play something fun. The idiots of course think its a success, but CCP won't be, they just lost €360 a year from me due to these lame mechanics. I had operated many times in spite of cloaky campers, the most amusing one was when Razor was BLOP's camping the constellation I was operating in in Cobalt Edge, we went out in three carriers setup to triage knowing full well that the number of people they had on at that time would not be able to take us out and even though they had a character in our system they never dropped us. We only stopped when it was known that they had a super in the area. Some lame lone camper like theotherotherneut is not an issue, the issue was always being camped by people who had all the ships they needed to kill anything you have and can escalate it to the end game, like NCDOT. Also they were account sharing to be able to cover all the systems, that was cheating, because I am leaving the game I don't care about stating that even though the NCDOT. guys is a nice guy, I still find that lame.

Chopper Rollins thinks that very self-importantly that he did it, but the issue for me was NCDOT, not his lame campers that spent their time saying things on Mobile Depots, and I proved a point by setting him up and killing one, it took me less than a week of conditioning him with the mobile depots, by reinforcing them and having people cloaked up watching him when he logged in I saw his pattern and then timed it to get him, when he warped to his second depot he found an interceptor there, it was easy, and there he is talking as if he was something clever. In the end he started working with the NCDOT guys, because on his own he was able to do nothing. I tried to bait him in sites a few times after he had killed a couple of people doing relic sites, but he was scared of me, would not come out to play, I even ran around in Industrials pretending to do PI and he would not go after me, so he may be all triumphant, but it was the NCDOT. guys who live in that area who wanted easy kills, not him, and to try to claim it was him just proves how lame he is.

Oh dear the forum troll use of "not at the keyboard" so lame, just lame...

It is just not engaging game play, totally yawn creating game play...

You kinda agreed with Dracvlad there.

A game played by not only not playing it, but working to disrupt others from playing it.

With the occasional PVP. Consenting or not.

And when not not playing the game, come to the forums to complain about people grinding in highsec, who are probably grinding with alts because they are nullseccers who can't play the game in nullsec because the game is all about not playing the game or preventing others from it.

So when they are complaining about highsec incursion/mission/market alts, they are asking for rules changes that may get others to play the game, which is in effect asking for the same things that Drac is asking for. But in a solipsistic manner, because it's not their way it must be alien and wrong or something.

You can see now why CFC is so huge. I've been to goonland and you see them carebearing it up out there. They sell the same thing to players that the safety of highsec could offer, with the occasional opportunity to be in an epic fleet battle that makes the news. But lo and behold it's also a huge NAPfest "out there", so it's not all rainbows and unicorns for them either.

Even these very forums used to be more active. If you posted on a thread one day and came back the next you had to go to page 2 to find it. Now I can post in the morning and still see the reference on page 1 at night. It used to not be that way. Even the C&P forum scrolled in a day. But then perhaps even the trolls have figured out that the best way to troll is not to troll, or maybe the non-trolls have decided not to bother with trolls (why win the special Olympics when you still ride the same short bus as the competition?)


So I guess that 2009 player I saw farming highsec noob sites in a Barghest might really be winning after all if all he accomplishes is keeping it off someone's killboard while earning ISK with it. He should come to the forums and see the non-players cry over his actions and feel a little extra win too.

In the end I think we all lose.



I write from the perspective of someone who has lost more ISK in live events than I can count, and used to take a Cyclone to nullsec and hit exploration sites back when you still had a fight on your hands. I once spent 3 hours trying to break BS tanks in what was known then as an "exploration fit" (noobs who go to the Stratios and Nestor will never know such times).

What did I get out of that? NOTHING.

But I never forgot it, and barely escaping in structure and leaving empty handed.

I can hear it "HURF BLURF!!! YOU GOT NO ISK YOU FAIL!!!!!1!!!!".

There are people who play other games that make fun of Eve's aspergian min-maxers. And if my only measure is stats or ISK, then I'm playing the game wrong. But I had a good time. I played the game. If all I wanted was ISK I would run highsec incursions. At 82 million SP I can even do it with a Typhoon (and have).