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WTF is this BS with the drone avionics skill CCP?

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General Nusense
Doomheim
#121 - 2014-07-27 21:34:43 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Given the current Ishtar meta, I take this bug to mean that there won't be much PvP this weekend. Sad


LOL CFC PVP.

more like

form up and stand down.

Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
Philboyd Benoit
#122 - 2014-07-27 23:19:45 UTC
Alt Was training DA4 last night when I logged off. logged in this afternoon. Evemon says Im training DA4 with 16h free room in Queue. Client shows me with an EMPTY Queue. Shows DA4 with 9h 13m left to train on it. I readded the DA4 and added DA5 on top of that and clicked apply. Got msg "trying to load an illegal queue" and the skill queue would not reactivate. Clicked on "remove" skill. Got msg "Cant remove the skill as it is not actually loaded. Please close Skill Queue and reopen to remove the skill" I close and reopen the Skill Queue and its EMPTY again. DA skill simply will NOT begin training again....Yes I have posted a bug. Just relating my experience here.

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Jean-Jacques Gaterau
Excognative Ignorance
#123 - 2014-07-28 01:20:45 UTC
Sacu Shi wrote:
Bug report - check
Ticket - check

not yet fixed - still waiting...


Same. I haven't missed some word on this somewhere else, have I? Little surprised it's taking so long.
Chani Miromme
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2014-07-28 02:18:24 UTC
Also got this skill lowered to 3, read the threads on the forums, sent a ticket, got a response that referred back to the forums.

That was four days ago and not fixed so far, so now I'm resorting to impotently whining on the forums in frustration.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2014-07-28 04:05:11 UTC
General Nusense wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Given the current Ishtar meta, I take this bug to mean that there won't be much PvP this weekend. Sad


LOL CFC PVP.

more like

form up and stand down.

Right, but without their Ishtars, we can't even get N3 to come out of the door so we can blueball them. :(
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#126 - 2014-07-28 04:24:02 UTC
Evemon says level 4, client says level 5.

Oh god.
Frederick Nurks
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2014-07-28 08:04:49 UTC
Yep. Fixed one day, then down again the next.

EVE Mon now shows 4, but EVE shows 5. Still wont allow DLA II to be put online.

So nice to have a thread to complain in EvilUgh

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Erin Crawford
#128 - 2014-07-28 08:20:45 UTC
Yup! Am in the same boat. Can't fit DLA II as i used to since DA went from L5 to L4. Ugh

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Jeb Ashimura
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#129 - 2014-07-28 12:59:04 UTC
UPDATE user_skills SET user_skills.skillpoints = 256000 WHERE user_skills.skillname = 'Drone Avionics' AND user_skills.skillpoints < 256000; COMMIT;

Yeah, I know it is not that simple, but you still have not fixed the Drone Avionics issue. Come on an get cracking CCP devs, life is hard without Drone Link Augmentor II. Pirate
Micky OneTuff Miner
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#130 - 2014-07-28 20:13:36 UTC
Logged in, thought maybe the patch today fixed it. I was wrongSad.
mow hawk
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2014-07-28 20:30:13 UTC
I just started training the skill again...

It won't show up in my Evemon and such, and shows up double on my profile :/

I may be wasting 4 days retraining, but I have no idea when they plan on fixing it and I want to go do things :P.

Maybe, just maybe they will work on it this week? Ugh
Khan Dhu
Perkone
Caldari State
#132 - 2014-07-28 20:48:01 UTC
mow hawk wrote:
I just started training the skill again...

It won't show up in my Evemon and such, and shows up double on my profile :/

I may be wasting 4 days retraining, but I have no idea when they plan on fixing it and I want to go do things :P.

Maybe, just maybe they will work on it this week? Ugh



At least you're *able* to start training it again. It doesn't matter if I try to set it on queue or 'force train' it over the skill I'm training now - I still get 'illegal queue.'

And all the 'illegal queue' thing suggests to me is that somewhere in their database, Khan here *has* Drone Avionics V, but somewhere else, it shows IV now. So when any of us with this problem tries to train it, the server interprets it as us trying to train beyond Level V.
Kelleth Kirk
Caldari State - Osprey Wing 7
#133 - 2014-07-28 21:10:04 UTC
My skill is still at 5, but I cannot use any my Drone Link II because it says I do not have the required skill level, even though my skill page says I do.
Not much of a problem for me atm, as my drone range is above my target lock range, but still annoying because I do have the skill, but am told I do not =P

I miss having ISK.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2014-07-28 21:12:42 UTC
Khan Dhu wrote:
mow hawk wrote:
I just started training the skill again...

It won't show up in my Evemon and such, and shows up double on my profile :/

I may be wasting 4 days retraining, but I have no idea when they plan on fixing it and I want to go do things :P.

Maybe, just maybe they will work on it this week? Ugh



At least you're *able* to start training it again. It doesn't matter if I try to set it on queue or 'force train' it over the skill I'm training now - I still get 'illegal queue.'

And all the 'illegal queue' thing suggests to me is that somewhere in their database, Khan here *has* Drone Avionics V, but somewhere else, it shows IV now. So when any of us with this problem tries to train it, the server interprets it as us trying to train beyond Level V.
I'm getting the same, had DA at V, it dropped to IV, get illegal queue when I try to retrain it.

On a side note EveHQ is reporting 550k more skill points than the client, even taking the cockup with DA V (210,745SP) into account I appear to be missing around 330K+ SP for no apparent reason.

EveHQ
Eve Client

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Alain Chieve
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2014-07-28 23:47:25 UTC
So two patches since CCP broke Drone control range modules and there's been no change. Would be nice to have a Dev let us know what is going on rather than just saying they are aware.. I'm very glad that some of the changes in Crius are now in German but drones are completely broke.

Had this happened to, say, a Gunnery range mod, the forums would eat CCP alive. When we fly drone boats that are drone specific and don't shoot fancy lazers or missiles we get crippled by this. Pretty sh1tty customer service if you ask me.
Ed MarKeen
East Domain Inc.
#136 - 2014-07-29 00:55:26 UTC
I had issue with Drone Avionics too, it was reduced from level 5 to 4, then after submitting a ticket was back to 5, yesterday again 4, and today back again to 5.
However I think there are other issues.
I made a test that confirmed what I suspected yesterday, the drone control range is incorrect, is 20km more that expected.
Apparently the bonus is counted twice, one for level 4, and one for level 5.


The funny part is that at the end of the test, on the wrecks I found two drones Big smile
Andrea Keuvo
Rusty Pricks
#137 - 2014-07-29 03:09:00 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
GenericForumAlt 1267389 wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Andrea Keuvo wrote:
How is clearing my cache going to affect CCP reducing a skill by 2 levels because they decide weeks after Kronos to make an unannounced change that directly conflicts what was published in the Kronos dev blog about drone skill changes?

Largely because they didn't actually do any such change, and the rest is just to ensure that you're actually seeing the correct numbers. There's a reason why “clear you cache” is step #1 on pretty much all problem-solving lists related to EVE.


Just want to point out here the usual Tippia smug...and then they just vanished from the thread when proven wrong. Seriously man not everyone is a raging idiot and you don't have all the answers.

At least he has the decency to just walk away when proven wrong. I've seen more than one windowlicker here keep on trying, even after being dunked by a dev.



I edited my post the first day after drinking some coffee and rereading the patch notes when I realized it was a bug and not an intentional change.

Of course it's still not fixed so I'm guessing they don't really know how to fix it. I mean at this point can CCP just give everyone drone avionics 5 and call it a day? I mean how many people really didn't have scout drone operation 5 anyway? So some noobs get a small SP gift and the rest of us get to use the modules we should be able to again.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#138 - 2014-07-29 03:21:24 UTC
Khan Dhu wrote:


At least you're *able* to start training it again. It doesn't matter if I try to set it on queue or 'force train' it over the skill I'm training now - I still get 'illegal queue.'

And all the 'illegal queue' thing suggests to me is that somewhere in their database, Khan here *has* Drone Avionics V, but somewhere else, it shows IV now. So when any of us with this problem tries to train it, the server interprets it as us trying to train beyond Level V.


There was a dev response somewhere that said the issues arose becasue somehow some characters managed to get two copies of the skill book injected.

Sounds crazy too me.


But that is what they said.
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#139 - 2014-07-29 06:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sara Tosa
Hasikan Miallok wrote:


There was a dev response somewhere that said the issues arose becasue somehow some characters managed to get two copies of the skill book injected.

Sounds crazy too me.


if you read your logs you'll see that it result as a "gift" from a devel - basically they ran their script to fix drone avionics for a few account that didnt get upgraded correctly during kronos skill switch but they used "insert" instead of "modify" (somebody shold get a swift kick in the junk for this).
now we have two skills with same name/id, the server get confused and crap out with random results.
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#140 - 2014-07-29 08:02:23 UTC
Sara Tosa wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:


There was a dev response somewhere that said the issues arose becasue somehow some characters managed to get two copies of the skill book injected.

Sounds crazy too me.


if you read your logs you'll see that it result as a "gift" from a devel - basically they ran their script to fix drone avionics for a few account that didnt get upgraded correctly during kronos skill switch but they used "insert" instead of "modify" (somebody shold get a swift kick in the junk for this).
now we have two skills with same name/id, the server get confused and crap out with random results.


You'd suspect they'd have a unique identifier making this impossible.

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