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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-07-25 06:57:06 UTC
In Spirit wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/VF1usJR.png
Working as intended?

this isnt anything new. *shrug* happens. rarely, but does.

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In Spirit
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-07-25 07:09:13 UTC  |  Edited by: In Spirit
What you're not seeing are the 2 holes that were crashed prior to the picture. (a C5 and null)

The day before that, there were 2 null - crashed them both. The following day there's suddenly 4 nulls up. It might be a fluke but that seems to be a far cry from the, "very occasionally" listed in the patch notes.
corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-07-25 10:36:49 UTC
Festers Uncle wrote:
I have been looking in the forums and patch notes, but I can't seem to find anything on if they have changed the Timers on WHs. I am in the C6 and since the patch there are half a dozen WHs that have not changed since the rollout. This makes the third day that all the WHs are still there with the same exits.

Did I miss something or is this a huge bug?


I really need to know the wh code for this as it could be a bug but without that i cant get it checked

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#24 - 2014-07-25 11:42:57 UTC
I had an alt in wh space but with the amount of whs spawning it is now impossible to run sites.

I dont know if this is an unforseen consequence or if ccp is leaning heavily on making high class whs unlivable (dont have my tinfoil hat with me today so cant say either way) but it does feel like the sandbox aspects of wh space is being discarded for how ccp feels whs should be used.

we will see when/if more changes effect whs in 'unforseen' ways.

for now I guess I'll see about farming them with spider domis or similar. might be time to bring out the bait vargur.

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ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#25 - 2014-07-25 12:12:01 UTC
we havent let any of our C6 k spaces live long enough, but DB says theyre 48 hr whs, but the DB is apparently unreliable as it says theyre 5B whs, and they aren't.

Corbexx,

My guess is that CCP has the same number of wandering C6 k spaces as C5. An easy oversight. However theres 1/5th thee amount fo C6s, so thats way too many. Would explain why were getting 2-4 new k spaces a day now.

If intentional, meh well live. K space whs are very rarely dangerous, so they shouldnt be stopping you from sites.

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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#26 - 2014-07-25 13:18:02 UTC
People complained about API making it too difficult to kill people doing sites so CCP obviously delivered a solution to the problem. You should all be rejoicing.

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Festers Uncle
Shortbus Hauling
#27 - 2014-07-25 18:25:10 UTC
after the WH went EOL and eight hours later, with the WH still EOL, I crashed for the night. Got up this morning to check training and the WH finally was gone. Seems like the extended modifiers are now going for the EOL timer as well. All the nullsec's EOL timers on the other WHs are now at the 6 hour mark as well. NICE.......
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#28 - 2014-07-25 19:43:21 UTC
I'm not sure, but if I remember correctly, EOL is a percentage of the hole's life? If it is, then it being extended would make sense.

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Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-07-25 20:51:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Foedus Latro
I thought I recognized Festers Uncle from somewhere....

Anyway, I've noticed similar WH queries. One similar to the extended life WH is the over massed wormhole. In Rolled Out we once recorded over 4,500,000,000 kg mass on a H296 static. We ended up calculating how to close it by when it went reduced (Stage 2).

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#30 - 2014-07-25 21:16:33 UTC
If you notice specific WHs lasting beyond 48h please send me an evemail with the system name and the wormhole ID.

As I mentioned in the other thread, we have an internal fix for the higher than intended number of K-space to C6 WHs that we will deploy next week.

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corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-07-25 22:48:32 UTC
ExookiZ wrote:
we havent let any of our C6 k spaces live long enough, but DB says theyre 48 hr whs, but the DB is apparently unreliable as it says theyre 5B whs, and they aren't.

Corbexx,

My guess is that CCP has the same number of wandering C6 k spaces as C5. An easy oversight. However theres 1/5th thee amount fo C6s, so thats way too many. Would explain why were getting 2-4 new k spaces a day now.

If intentional, meh well live. K space whs are very rarely dangerous, so they shouldnt be stopping you from sites.


The issue I have is i know what the new wh's should be but NDA means i cant just say "yo guys new k space to c6 wh's should be this mass this much max mass and should last this long"

the fact that the wiki is out of date just compounds the issue. l've passed on stuff and Luckily CCP fozzie and CCP greyscale have been on the ball sorting out alot of stuff. But as CCP fozzie said if a wh is over 48 say something, mail him with j number and sig id.

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Festers Uncle
Shortbus Hauling
#32 - 2014-07-26 02:18:39 UTC
Foedus Latro wrote:
I thought I recognized Festers Uncle from somewhere....


.... ummm, where you one of the many people that podded me or my other main U Fester.


Foedus Latro wrote:
Anyway, I've noticed similar WH queries. One similar to the extended life WH is the over massed wormhole. In Rolled Out we once recorded over 4,500,000,000 kg mass on a H296 static. We ended up calculating how to close it by when it went reduced (Stage 2).


I have no issues of closing the WH with caps (even after the horrid loss this weekend), BS's or Cruisers, but it was something I noticed. I don't always close the WH because corpies may went to go out to null or what not and fool around. Since we are recovering from a huge wipe this weekend while getting jumped, great job on the guys who smote us, while doing sites I wasn't worrying about rolling any and why we noticed the WH timers changing.
Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-07-26 05:32:08 UTC
Festers Uncle wrote:
Foedus Latro wrote:
I thought I recognized Festers Uncle from somewhere....


.... ummm, where you one of the many people that podded me or my other main U Fester.



I was the one who initially found your C6 and just so happened to be that fleet FC for fleet I mustered.

Cheers for being a good sport about it.

Just a wormhole guy
Festers Uncle
Shortbus Hauling
#34 - 2014-07-26 17:39:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Festers Uncle
Foedus Latro wrote:
Festers Uncle wrote:
Foedus Latro wrote:
I thought I recognized Festers Uncle from somewhere....


.... ummm, where you one of the many people that podded me or my other main U Fester.



I was the one who initially found your C6 and just so happened to be that fleet FC for fleet I mustered.

Cheers for being a good sport about it.


no worries on you popping us. It was a great job on your part. All part of the PvP aspect of the game.
Budrick3
Moira.
#35 - 2014-07-27 18:35:28 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
If you notice specific WHs lasting beyond 48h please send me an evemail with the system name and the wormhole ID.

As I mentioned in the other thread, we have an internal fix for the higher than intended number of K-space to C6 WHs that we will deploy next week.


Also, we have an extrodinary amount of K space connections in our C5 wormhole. 4 connections within the last 6-8 hours. Same way with the static that we are connected too.
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#36 - 2014-07-28 05:09:23 UTC
Kireitsugu Secheh wrote:
In Spirit wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/VF1usJR.png

Working as intended?

Mother of his holy highness.
We've finally found the trade hub of Jspace.



Well then it must be the Rens of the trade hubs.

http://i.imgur.com/HllCqZL.png
Festers Uncle
Shortbus Hauling
#37 - 2014-07-29 16:10:24 UTC
Judas Lonestar wrote:
Kireitsugu Secheh wrote:
In Spirit wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/VF1usJR.png

Working as intended?

Mother of his holy highness.
We've finally found the trade hub of Jspace.



Well then it must be the Rens of the trade hubs.

http://i.imgur.com/HllCqZL.png


That is just CRAPTASTIC!! WOW......
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