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Corp Woes, I love the way it lies.

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Thatyellowdevil Jaynara
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-07-27 13:50:57 UTC
A few things first. this is an alt on my neutral hauler account, I am in the cfc, my corp is barely limping along, and this will be a long post.

I used to be a miner, and then an indy player. My first corp wound up merging with a null mining corp, made friends had fun shooting rocks and chatting. Then my CEO who we had all grown rather fond of awoxed us all, took all of our stuff. and taught me not to trust people no matter how long you play with them in eve. Not that I am weepy or sad about it, to be honest I thought it was pretty incredible.

Well then I struck out on my own. I was mining in an npc corp, watching netflix, when some guys came up and ganked me. I said something there sexual identity, asked if they wanted to make out, if they there mom was hot and looking for a real man....and eventually got recruited into the corp.

The guys in the corp were awesome, then some left, and less awesome people took their place, the cycle repeated until I liked only a few of them. During this cycle we had gone from low sec, to high sec, and back all the while looking for a shot to get into null. Apparently I entered the corp on its downswing and they had been big nullsec players in the past. We got into npc null, people got bored with the welp fleets, the terrible nrds lostfest, and the general feeling of nothing to do. A lot left, then we left. T

The CEO took a break giving it to one of the only guys in corp I like, but who doesn't want to lead and hates having to accept the burden. So he thrusts us into the only CFC alliance that would accept us and we just are kinda sitting here. Once again people are leaving. There is very little reason to undock other than to be harpy #76 in the long stream of boring stat ops. Some of us have billions and find the tedium of null ratting too much, others have nearly nothing and are too scared of cloakies to do anything. Everyone likes to whine, except a few, and besides myself no one is willing to say they are not enjoying null to the few that are.

At this point I don't know what to do. I do not like being in Null, it bores me. Fleets and pvp seem to lose meaning when everyone does what they are told and if they lose something it is replaced. I have made tons of money. 15 billion and counting, more than enough since I am half a year a way to sitting comfortably in any capital ship. I hate it here, but I have grown fond of my corp with age. A sort of Stockholm Syndrome if you would. People leave, I try to stop them. But those I do stop from leaving, have my feeling guilty since they have the mental fortitude to do what I can't. Guess thats why they call it Windowpane.

What does this illustrious board suggest?
Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#2 - 2014-07-27 14:04:35 UTC
Join tengoo.
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
#3 - 2014-07-27 14:10:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Rovinia
If it bores you, don't stay for the only purpose that you "have to" or feel responsible to keep a status quo that is not longer relevant. It will burn you out very quickly.

Find a good solution for those who wan't to stay in Sov-Null (perhaps other corps in the alliance are willing to take them) and take those who you like and feel the same as you and try something new. Perhaps try NPC-0.0 like Stain and Syndicate, try faction warfar etc. Or join a wormhole corp. Or try to get a foothold in mercenary business.

Change does not have to be a bad thing, you know. And most certainly you will find more awesome people to play the game with.
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#4 - 2014-07-27 14:16:33 UTC
Find a corp you feel comfortable in that does the things you want to do. It may take a bit but you will find one that has adult members who realize people have lives other then Eve. You should enjoy the time you have to play.

Also try an aspect of Eve you haven't been exposed to yet. Are you experienced in invention, manufacturing, wormholes or exploration? Eve is a learning experience, noone knows everything about it. Hell I've been playing for almost 7 years and I llearn something new every day.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#5 - 2014-07-27 14:20:19 UTC
Seems like a pretty well put together troll, bringing together all the things non-nullsec dwelling people think about null into a narrative all General Discussion can believe in

The feelgood thread of the day

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-27 14:23:28 UTC
Thatyellowdevil Jaynara wrote:
Guess thats why they call it Windowpane.

I don't think I have any suggestions for you. I've actually enjoyed being a grunt, a cog in the machine.. sometimes it feels a bit like my RL job which I have a perverse habit of enjoying too much.

But I did enjoy reading your post. It's an interesting series of events and filled with colorful phrases (thanks to Eminem) like the one I quoted. I wish you good luck in your quest to find space happiness.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-07-27 14:27:13 UTC
Thatyellowdevil Jaynara wrote:
I do not like being in Null, it bores me.

Thatyellowdevil Jaynara wrote:
I hate it here, but I have grown fond of my corp with age.

Given that - you already know what you need to do. Staying anywhere you're not having fun (which is the whole point of the game you're paying a sub for) will burn you out fast.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#8 - 2014-07-27 14:29:37 UTC
Make your own corp

With hookers and blackjack

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#9 - 2014-07-27 14:46:21 UTC
The reason your old CEO awoxed everyone and stole the corp assets: He was bored.

Your turn.

Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!  - Freyya

Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help.

Ton'Ka Katsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-07-27 14:50:49 UTC
here is a fun fact. once you have a cfc corp in your history. no other allaince outside of the cfc will accept you. its essential char suicide
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-07-27 14:54:37 UTC
Thatyellowdevil Jaynara wrote:
A few things first. this is an alt on my neutral hauler account, I am in the cfc, my corp is barely limping along, and this will be a long post.

I used to be a miner, and then an indy player. My first corp wound up merging with a null mining corp, made friends had fun shooting rocks and chatting. Then my CEO who we had all grown rather fond of awoxed us all, took all of our stuff. and taught me not to trust people no matter how long you play with them in eve. Not that I am weepy or sad about it, to be honest I thought it was pretty incredible.

Well then I struck out on my own. I was mining in an npc corp, watching netflix, when some guys came up and ganked me. I said something there sexual identity, asked if they wanted to make out, if they there mom was hot and looking for a real man....and eventually got recruited into the corp.

The guys in the corp were awesome, then some left, and less awesome people took their place, the cycle repeated until I liked only a few of them. During this cycle we had gone from low sec, to high sec, and back all the while looking for a shot to get into null. Apparently I entered the corp on its downswing and they had been big nullsec players in the past. We got into npc null, people got bored with the welp fleets, the terrible nrds lostfest, and the general feeling of nothing to do. A lot left, then we left. T

The CEO took a break giving it to one of the only guys in corp I like, but who doesn't want to lead and hates having to accept the burden. So he thrusts us into the only CFC alliance that would accept us and we just are kinda sitting here. Once again people are leaving. There is very little reason to undock other than to be harpy #76 in the long stream of boring stat ops. Some of us have billions and find the tedium of null ratting too much, others have nearly nothing and are too scared of cloakies to do anything. Everyone likes to whine, except a few, and besides myself no one is willing to say they are not enjoying null to the few that are.

At this point I don't know what to do. I do not like being in Null, it bores me. Fleets and pvp seem to lose meaning when everyone does what they are told and if they lose something it is replaced. I have made tons of money. 15 billion and counting, more than enough since I am half a year a way to sitting comfortably in any capital ship. I hate it here, but I have grown fond of my corp with age. A sort of Stockholm Syndrome if you would. People leave, I try to stop them. But those I do stop from leaving, have my feeling guilty since they have the mental fortitude to do what I can't. Guess thats why they call it Windowpane.

What does this illustrious board suggest?


Leave, on good terms

You can always create a chat channel to keep in touch with the people you did like, even if you aren't in the same corp anymore.

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#12 - 2014-07-27 14:58:01 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Leave, on good terms

You can always create a chat channel to keep in touch with the people you did like, even if you aren't in the same corp anymore.

Better yet just use alts.

We chat on Jabber and lots of us play Jabber online anyway.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-07-27 15:00:55 UTC
Ton'Ka Katsu wrote:
here is a fun fact. once you have a cfc corp in your history. no other allaince outside of the cfc will accept you. its essential char suicide

Your amnesia about your own current Alliance situ is hilarious. Here's a refresher of your Alliance history.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#14 - 2014-07-27 15:01:41 UTC
Ton'Ka Katsu wrote:
here is a fun fact. once you have a cfc corp in your history. no other allaince outside of the cfc will accept you. its essential char suicide


As long as your name is McCandless, the family always welcomes you back, no matter what

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Falin Whalen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-07-27 15:04:05 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Seems like a pretty well put together troll, bringing together all the things non-nullsec dwelling people think about null into a narrative all General Discussion can believe in

The feelgood thread of the day

I agree. Its like a bingo card full of highsec pubbie, bullcrap platitudes, of what nullsec is "really" like, rapped up in a emo, downer, narrative.

Also OP needs to :frogout:

"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka 

Neesa Corrinne
Nyx Legion..
Breakpoint.
#16 - 2014-07-27 15:51:32 UTC
CCP sets null sec local to delayed mode.

Null sec ceases to be boring.

However, the dev(s) are too terrified of the fallout proceeding such a daring change so alternatively:

What you need to do is relocate to a full time WH corporation. It's truly wondrous how the fear of the unknown, coupled with the real danger of loss, keeps you on your toes. When you play on your toes, when you live on the knifes edge, then "boring" evaporates.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-07-27 16:00:16 UTC
Here's the deal - and why this is so damned hard for people to figure out I will never now.

EVE IS A GAME.

You don't have to do anything in Eve you don't want to do. If you don't like the way your corp is going, pack your **** (and everyone else's, if that's your thing), and GTFO for the nearest border. Real life is dull enough without spending your free time doing more dull boring stuff you don't really want to be doing.

The part I really do not understand is why you needed other people to tell to quit doing **** you don't like doing in a GAME.

"This part of the game is so dull. I hate it."
"Do you have to do that?"
"No, I could do other stuff."
"Then...ummm..."

Shocked

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.

Morihei Akachi
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-07-27 17:17:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Morihei Akachi
De'Veldrin wrote:
Here's the deal - and why this is so damned hard for people to figure out I will never now.

EVE IS A GAME.

I would have thought the answer to that was moderately obvious: CCP work quite hard to convince us that EvE is not a game, if by "game" you mean some casual amusement of no enduring importance or emotional significance. From Hilmar's favorite (and [perhaps too] oft repeated) tale of his unwillingness to magically make a new mining cruiser to replace one he once lost, to the whole "a game more meaningful than real life"-message: EvE clearly isn't meant to be just "playing around". Compare it to a sport, if you want to get closer to the psychological effect being aimed at: you don't just step down from being trainer or captain of your local sports team overnight, because, hey, after all it's just a game. You're emotionally invested—you have to be, otherwise you won't have been doing your job well—so you agonize about whether you can do it to the other guys, you stay up late thinking about it, you talk it through with significant others. If it's EvE, maybe you pull out your neutral hauler alt and post to GD. Makes perfect sense to me.

"Enduring", "restrained" and "ample" as designations for starship components are foreign to the genre of high-tech science fiction and don’t belong in Eve Online. (And as for “scoped” …)

Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2014-07-27 17:19:21 UTC
Neesa Corrinne wrote:
CCP sets null sec local to delayed mode.

Null sec ceases to be boring.

However, the dev(s) are too terrified of the fallout proceeding such a daring change so alternatively:

What you need to do is relocate to a full time WH corporation. It's truly wondrous how the fear of the unknown, coupled with the real danger of loss, keeps you on your toes. When you play on your toes, when you live on the knifes edge, then "boring" evaporates.



CCP allows cynos in W-space

W-space ceases to be farmer paradise

However, the dev(s) are too terrified of the fallout proceeding such a daring change

Yeah? We good? OK!

Ohhh... Sad

Sorry buttercup; CCP need to do some work with the DSCAN system first and probably the map data too before they can remove instant local.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#20 - 2014-07-27 18:09:08 UTC
Pheusia wrote:

Sorry buttercup; CCP need to do some work with the DSCAN system first and probably the map data too before they can remove instant local.


No they don't.

Neither map data nor D-scan is meant to be flawless. This is intentional and it serves a purpose.

And cyno's would be great in WH's, if it were possible to calculate where wormholes were in relation to each other so that jump ranges had meaning. But since WH's don't have a coordinate location on the map they are all both infinitely equidistant while being right on top of each other at the same time.

This kind of breaks a few basic rules about cyno's, on a fundamental level, and introduces many issues.

Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!  - Freyya

Are you a forum alt? Have you ever wondered why your experience on the forums is always so frustrating and unrewarding? This may help.

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