EVE General Discussion

I don't see what economics and brain chemistry have to do with each other.

Psychological disorders aren't (entirely) caused by living conditions or socioeconomic status.

I would say that it's perfectly ok to hunt someone down who has shown a propensity to fly free killmails. I planned on doing it tonight myself, if someone else hadn't done it first. Orca killmails in particular are a feather in the hat.

I can't say that I see that many defending the miner in question, so… no, not really.

It's a tough one.

If that was completely forbidden then you'd see a rash of people pretending to be super-upset so that any further attacks on them would be unjustified or forbidden.

Not going to get into the debate myself other than to say I'm not 100% sure that's not a troll thread or even Faylee Freir trying to make a name for themselves. Such is EVE more often than not.

This thread is harassing my sense of reason.

This is exactly the problem affecting the NBA (and professional soccer, I would argue) today.

Lukas's question leaves out the obvious differences between the Erotica 1 scenario and the current one. He fails to mention that the bonus room session in question lasted for nearly two hours. He leaves out the fact that Erotica 1 not only harassed the player of the game but also his wife, who had nothing to do with Eve. He leaves out the undeniable fact, recorded on the audio, that the harassment of the player clearly reached beyond the boundaries of the game into the real life of the person in question. He makes much of the fact that later the player stated that he did not feel harassed, when on the audio recording he very clearly did; and of course nobody ever talked to the guy's wife to find out what she felt about this intrusion into her real life. These facts are not relevant to Lukas, who cannot let this issue go because the game, you know, is much more important than any idea of human decency.

It's perfectly fine with me if CCP decides that the person about whom Lukas is asking this question has been harassed in ways that CCP won't allow. If CCP wants to redraw the line of acceptable behavior to find that this instance, too, is worthy of a ban, then I'm just dandy with it. But what Lukas is really doing is continuing his own witch hunt.

Lucas is arguing just to argue. He knows this is not harassment.

Well CCP is a business, so their motivation is to keep as many players as they can. The whole "be a villain" thing is fun and all, but you can;t really "be a villain" anymore, so they may as well start looking after their newbies better. The problem is if you only ever look after the trolls and bots, that's all you end up with, and you go the way of Diaspora (which I played right up to the end).

I'd love to do the same, but I live with the harsh reality that you can't always get what you want. Sometimes you have to make concessions so that everyone can get the most out of the game.

Beginning to suspect we're being trolled, or at least debating a devil's advocate.

Lucas, is this true?