EVE General Discussion

The 'newbie' target was a toon that was nearly seven years old. While it's possible, even probable, that they were bought in the character bazaar.... that argument isn't going to hold much water.


Edit: Dammit Ralph, GTFO of my head.

I don't disagree, yet in one case Erotica 1 got banned. So it follows that if the rules are being enforced consistently that the aggressor should be banned in this case, as in both cases the intent was to upset the target.

I'm upset and feel offended by this comment.

Guys, hold me back or I'll get this guy banned, cause I am incapable of ignoring the internet.

Is this how we play now?

Anyway, my opinion on the matter is still the same. I don't find the linked conversation in anyway abusive and should just be ignored.

I don't think this case was as extreme as the E1.

Erotica 1 wasn't banned for in-game harassment.

Because of Ripard's blog and the firestorm it generated, E1 had become a perception liability for CCP. To use a political term, "the optics didn't look good on this one". The ban may have been positioned as a reprimand for harrassing behavior, but the truth is the whole affair made CCP look bad in the public eye.

I do think that within a company's purview they have a right to excise anything they perceive to be a threat to the brand or the company's future. E1 happened to be standing on the wrong side of this matter.

Upsetting someone isn't, but purposely trying to upset someone that is already upset is. CCP made it pretty clear that if someone is clearly upset you should back off, not purposely push them further over the edge.

So after 30 days, I can follow you around, ganking bumping and insulting you for all eternity? No matter how upset you get? I think you'll find CCP rules don't simply stop once you hit the 30 day mark. You can't even repeatedly follow someone around and bump them in loads of different systems, so you damn well can't hunt someone down to attack them simply because you know they are upset in real life and want to upset them more.

Distressed was the word used Lucas,distressed is covered under harassment.
Upset is covered with HTFU.

The bolded part of your post is the damage that Ripard did, in my opinion, to the community. Making news articles as a CSM member should never have been used (or vindicated) as a platform for pursuing an account ban.

Eveboard has them at over 22mil sp. that's far more than a year's worth. I don't have any personal grudges in here, but speaking as someone who has been blapped for a goodly chunk of their net worth in the past, and subsequently ragequit... then came back for more, I find the arguments against this activity hollow. Sorry, but Faylee didn't force the target to open fire. They had a wide range of options available to them, yet they chose violence and it ended poorly for them. That sucks, but it's EVE.

7 out of 8 bears run like hell when they see someone go suspect near them. The alleged 'victim' here chose to be the 1 in 8 that opens fire. Their choice, their consequences. This happened over two hours after the initial tear-filled thread was started... plenty of time for the 'victim' to either take a chill pill, get laid, log out, or all of the above.

That's an uncanny gift Ralph has.

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