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Bubbles ZZZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-07-23 23:19:30 UTC
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.
Plleasure Hub
Municorn
#2 - 2014-07-24 00:04:31 UTC
Welcome to the game! You have come at an interesting time with a lot of potential trades to make. Crius will undoubtedly alter prices across the board with all the new fees and the new idea of expensive research.

As far as your loan goes, I would recommend lowering your asking amount and offering a bit higher interest rate. As a brand new trader with less than 100M to your name, investors will likely see you as a very risky investment, so you need to offer them a good rate as compensation. It would help to expose them less by not asking for so much, also. Offering your API might help, but it does not eliminate many elements of perceived risk.

Good luck!

"There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." — Kazuto Kirigaya

Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-07-24 00:07:23 UTC
Bubbles ZZZ wrote:
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.


Here's a trick for you... You're probably paying for a subscription, eh? Well, why not pay two months in advance, have 1.8bn capital to start with, and never pay a sub again?
Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-07-24 00:08:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Abidal Trekt
wrong button...
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#5 - 2014-07-24 08:57:55 UTC
Johnathan Coffey
Niforce Triggers
#6 - 2014-07-24 10:08:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnathan Coffey
Bubbles ZZZ wrote:
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.

1. My internal Grammar Nazi also has OCD, so I have to point out that it's 'Ponzi' (like the guy who invented it), 'hateful', 'required' and 'unfortunately'. Proper spelling is a sign of a good education, which will help you be taken seriously.
2. As has been stated before, the quickest and easiest way to acquire some starting capital is to buy a PLEX form CCP and sell it on the market. Surely ~800kk ISK is a good head start for a young trader?

First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING.

Adunh Slavy
#7 - 2014-07-24 12:01:31 UTC
Saw the title, arrived with chains, leaving disapointed.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Vaako Omaristos
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-07-24 13:06:57 UTC
Good Luck with your career in trading. It's interesting and can be very rewarding. However since you are a new player your inexperience in Eve is a major negative for me to invest.

Trader, industrialist and thinker. Follow my progress on my 141 trading challenge here

Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#9 - 2014-07-24 13:38:19 UTC
Bubbles ZZZ wrote:
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.


You don't need 500m. Learn how to trade with 20m you have and work up from there. Always amazes how many new Eve players want to fast track their gameplay. Enjoy the journey, that's the great part about Eve.
Angelica Everstar
#10 - 2014-07-24 16:59:38 UTC
I can recommend trading +3 implants in backwater regions for easy and large profits, and/or buying 1 plex for some extra isk.

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voetius
Grundrisse
#11 - 2014-07-24 17:54:29 UTC
Bayonnefrog wrote:
Bubbles ZZZ wrote:
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.


You don't need 500m. Learn how to trade with 20m you have and work up from there. Always amazes how many new Eve players want to fast track their gameplay. Enjoy the journey, that's the great part about Eve.


Indeed. OP you don't need 500mill, it's better to get started with a few tens of millions and learn the market.

Swimming in the shallow end of the pool has it's benefits as well - less start up capital required, less ferocious competition than hub trading , higher margins, more room to make mistakes, etc.

Saying you are new to trading and need 500m to get started just makes it look like you haven't done any reesearch whatsoever.
Bubbles ZZZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-07-24 21:08:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Bubbles ZZZ
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Saw the title, arrived with chains, leaving disapointed.

Sorry that you had to leave dissapointed, i will post another thread in few weeks when i have a better grasp of the eve market and will have sufficient funds to prove you guys that i can turn a good profit from any amount of isk. Thank you all for the advices you gave me they are well recieved, even though i had to search what implants are ^^. Maybe i reached to far from the start, but hey what doesnt kill you makes you stronger ! the replies that i got from this thread have helped me alot, on the plex side, i dont really want to as my gaming fund for this year has been depleted ^^ again thank you guys and see you in a few weeks :P

Oh and sorry for the bad grammar ^^ will try not to make any more mistakes in my next posts !
Angelica Everstar
#13 - 2014-07-24 23:05:53 UTC
Sent you something to help you a little on the way to your target Blink

§ Current Bond AE09 1 Trillion / Acc. 4,5t ISK

ƒ Want to become a better trader ?

¢ Pls help support EVEs charities!

@EveEntrepreneur

Bubbles ZZZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-07-25 05:52:43 UTC
Angelica Everstar wrote:
Sent you something to help you a little on the way to your target Blink

Thank you very much, will make a good use of it, will return it in 2 weeks with some profit :P
Chu Ke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-07-25 09:28:00 UTC
Bubbles ZZZ wrote:
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.


hi,

as a fellow newbie, i can triple the returns you promise potential investors,

i can also guarantee investors will get daily returns and whilst my track record is limiited like yours my returns will be superior

in fact, fellow investors would be stupid to invest with you

interest i promise is 7.5 percent

paid DAILY!!!
Bubbles ZZZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-07-25 09:49:02 UTC
Chu Ke wrote:
Bubbles ZZZ wrote:
Hello, I just started playing even, first attraction was a titan, then the possibility to be involved in politics and trading, as i did alot of trading in other games from what i have seen until now it does not compare with what i saw here. After i played with the 20 million a random guy gave me i made around 3 million profit in about 4-5 hours of constantly being on the market, i know that i can make more but i have to sleep unfortunatley and market orders are still up. But i know that i can make more money, unfortunatley to make money you need money so here i am trying to get some investors, hopefully i will have some luck on my side with my account being so new and from what i have heard there have been alot of ponzy schemes on eve and i cannot offer collateral for the time being.

What i want is a 500 million investment from multiple investors ofc, interest is 2.5% per week, daily information shall be given if requierd by the investor, also i can also give my full api if that helps ?


Thank you, please no hatefull replies, if you have something mean to say keep it to yourself the world is already full of ****.


hi,

as a fellow newbie, i can triple the returns you promise potential investors,

i can also guarantee investors will get daily returns and whilst my track record is limiited like yours my returns will be superior

in fact, fellow investors would be stupid to invest with you

interest i promise is 7.5 percent

paid DAILY!!!



wow .. okay good luck ^^
Ahriman Taredi
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-07-25 23:02:18 UTC
Obvious alt is obvious?
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-07-26 04:54:18 UTC
Ahriman Taredi wrote:
Obvious alt is obvious?


Not for him, apparently. Roll

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)