Ships & Modules

several command ships can be used as a cheaper tengu for farming sleepers. they will do great in lvl3 missions, but so do faction BCs. you can use them fo rlvl4s, but marauders and faction battleships will usually do better.

Blaster astarte is kind of mind-boggling.

Command ships are intended as fleet boosters and there are better choices for solo activities. With warfare link modules and mindlink implant they will be a game changing addition to any fleet - including PVE if your corporation runs fleet missions.

I used a sleipnir and can confirm it's a god-machine. I use it to run missions, rat, and strike fear into the hearts of noobies.


also, regardless of the one you get, spoil it with faction and dead space mods.

comments on caldari command ships?i'm mostly interested in nighthawk

Command Ships; More DPS by at least 30%, More tank by up to a couple hundred %, with less agility than a HAC and no SP loss for getting killed.

Redwyne Vyruk; I never bothered to use missiles as I find turrets to be more my thing, so I can't help you with the Nighthawk.

Command ships are the BC version of HAC's. Look at the bonuses.

Sleipnir Vs. Vagabond
Astarte Vs. Deimos
Nighthawk Vs. Cerberus
Absolution Vs. Zealot

These ships are a bit slower and less agile, but better in every other way. If you dont like command ships, it's because you haven't flown one.

Then your input in this thread is entirely invalid. Thanks for playing.

Flying them (my case: Eos and Sleipnir, Abso got nerfed hard with that hotdog-harbinger-look) whenever possible, CS are beasts up-close in pvp. They usually pack close-to-BS dps with cruiser-accuracy and tanks that exceed regular BS by a margin. For the Eos, it allows you to put 3 links with med smartbombs, a 150k ehp tank and 600 dps on the field, which is most awesome for wormholes since cloaky links can't jump and safe up against competent people <.<
Downside is the lack of battleship sized mods (heavy CB, heavy neut, large smart) in comparison, and also the significantly shorter range. T1 BS and CS fitted are pretty close in price.

Unlike HACs, they're rather slow, making some ~700m/s-1300m/s (damnation - nanosleip) cold, which is slow enough to be catchable by any t1 cruiserblob there is. They warp at a medium pace, just not as fast as HACs (Ishtars...) do. They also got huge ass signatures, people can frequently hit you just fine with rage torps.

If you're flying alone, there is no way around going into webrange, diving into all of the scrams, webs and neuts, else they'll just move away once dropping low. 720s on a sleipnir can work solo, mainly cause shieldcruisers can drop from 10% shields straight down into their pod if you got a good trajectory. Expect to get blobbed to **** and people not engaging you without logistics support, be prepared for that (iE maulus-bro or such)

If you're going for a gang, CS are awesome for their t2 resists and fitting space (beam-absos, rail-vultures, rail-astartes, HAM-nighthawks/blaster-astartes with dual neuts for busting caps), but aren't that cost-efficient on a larger scale as other alternatives.

You can throw two command links on near any configuration, and the eos even mounts three without missing out on dps (yeah, drones). If you are more into playing the game as opposed to work your way to victory, on-grid boosting is awesome (for the guy doing it).

Clocking in to give a big +1 to the Astarte. I've used them on gates and stations for in ur face brawling. They take people by surprise, and by the time they figure it out, it's too late to de-aggress. 1200 DPS with medium gun tracking is a great platform.

Someone asked about the Nighthawk/Caldari ship. It's known for great tank, not so much DPS. I'd probably fly the Vulture if I was to take one into a fight, never tried either ship though.