EVE General Discussion

Damn... it's been 5 years already since that thread got started. Where the f*ck did the time go

It's amusing how little have things changed, and how similar the dynamics and posts there are to this thread. Groundhog Lustrum. Well, at least in the meantime Aaron has learned how to properly spell "you".

Aaron, I actually like you, even if you are off your rocker, someday it would be nice to kick back and share some good ganja and laughs with you, take care.

Listen to the M.A.S.H. theme song OP. It's pretty chill.

I did like the concept of Hub-Zero and it actual is working already.

I am a bit surprised about the drama atm, and was wondering if I would change from being blue to become red to Hub-Zero.
And just start killing all those little blue dots in the area.

But I became weak and I think the pilots off Hub-Zero are nice gents so now I don't know anymore what to do.
I will gank some miners in High Sec in frustration in the mean time...

I really like Dracvlad I will stand behind him (not when he drops the soap).
But Drac is to nice he went out to high to get stuff for the market many times I bought him out in Stain so he could buy even more stuff.
There is about 15bil on it now and this will dry out so the locals must now really pull up their pants and call black frog for their stuff.
Because I am not going to seed the market anymore.

There are loads of options to get your stuff over even if you are new.

I will stay in Stain because it's a different place then other 0.0 area's because of the Hub-Zero concept.
The group was just about to get a decent PVP wing when all this drama went on.

Well at least there is nobody telling me anymore what to do here and I like that.
So I will just see where this is going and keep the blue ones blue and grab some 'bad woman' in the mean time or .

I'd say try to get into in-depth convo's with people and get an idea of what people are thinking to do. One thing I have accepted is that once the drama kicked off only 1 or 2 guys spoke with me directly to find out what had happened and why. Lots of other people seemed to just accept what other people had told them about me.

I think there was a lack of communication, I had a plan on how we could fight the hostiles effectively and earn a megaton of isk so we could afford to take on our enemies. Was I trying to manage all of you from top to bottom? No, my goal was to respond to the threats that exist here and counteract them and asking the community to help me by listening. I felt I had made it crystal clear many times that in order to fight our enemies it would be important that we worked as a well organised team.

I agree that we did have a pvp group, but we never took the time to review and agree on fittings and ship types and analyse how our enemy attacked, it seemed that all we wanted to do was undock and primary the first hostile ship we saw which resulted in loss for some of us.

It was my actions that lead to people coming here to dwell so I take full responsibility for how things are now. Right now my main focus is to prepare for the next attempt at this which will probably be in the next couple of years. I plan to build a corp with lots of members and then I will invite other people to join us as allies and protect them.

Interesting. I wonder if they could change the null station stuff. x built the station y occupies. y ownes the area but x can still dock.

Lol, you dont even know how to avoid you and your fleet buddies getting caught in your own mobile bubble chev, You lost a few ships on that one. If this is what you call leadership and pvp skill count me out.

I like you chev, but you're a drama queen. it's a shame really.

N.B: I've had beer

Well I have spent 5 years playing Eve, when I joined Eve I realised from the off that the game was a harsh environment, I had spoken to a few people who had played it, so I joined with my eyes wide open, my attitude was from the start to play to be difficult to kill and that was the key focus of my game play. I also wanted to play as a good guy, only kill people that I had a reason to kill, so not for me ganking mining ships or industrial's, my criticism of that only rests with CCP in terms of their inability to see for many years that it was too easy to kill mining ships, the amount of people they lost due to that is staggering, its decisions like that which will come back to haunt CCP. It was amazing to join an organisation in Star Citizen and find that 50% of the people there had played Eve and that 80% of them had left due to the ganking of their mining ship. CCP you should have set the mining ships as you evantually did two years before you did...

In affect Eve is too difficult to play, the universe is too small, there is no way to get away from being camped or hounded, there are large numbers of very old players who have so much ISK that they can create new accounts on the fly, infiltrate, etc., they account share to get advantage in terms of cloaky camping campaigns, for example the last one that I saw it was evident that a couple of the toons logged off and then back on as the owner came on to take them over. The issue of account linking was in my view a major one, it made infiltration and cleanout operations so easy it was laughable and that is why so many people just don't bother, part of the same issue is there in terms of people awox'ing as newbies with RR support, it means that new players are not trusted. Its not the players doing this so much as the tools not being there or the structure not helping, and in any case in Eve you cannot play with one account you have to have several accounts to compete.

One of the things I hate more than anything else is sitting there in a cyno ship for 10 minutes with a big sign on my head saying come kill me. On the thread for ideas for depot type modules, I suggested that CCP create one that would be the cyno which would operate as long as you were within 3km off it, the cyno would last until you moved away or ten minutes, then you could come back in and scoop it. This would also make another part of the gameplay more difficult the out of control hotdrop, as you would need to drop it, anchor it put it on line then light the cyno, now with so many old players its now BLOP's BLOP's and more BLOP's, its too easy and it makes doing anything too difficult. The last 4 months of my time in Eve was spent logging into multiple cloaky campers and reverse camping them by sitting in station so they wasted electricty and their accounts on me. The art of playing Eve without playing Eve, I know that I started playing Eve to be difficult to kill but this is quite frankly ridiculous.

There are a number of people on the forums who are the most obnoxious trolls that I have seen anywhere, one of my fellow players Infinity Ziona left the game because of the failure of CCP to control these people in anyway shape or form, they will jump into any thread created by people who want to talk about immersion or things to improve the PvE side of things and troll it to destruction, as a result hardly anyone from the more PvE orientated side bothers, so CCP has their forums screened by these people and the views of people who look for something more than Erotica1 type gaming feel that its HTFU and thats it, so they leave.

I have had some great times in Eve, had some fun, but I am not playing this game to be a patsy for the very old players, with the structure of Eve and some of the issues I laid out here it is too easy for them, and while a community can be a major part of any game, it can also destroy the game. I wish CCP well, unlike other people I do not want you to fail and die, but sadly I cannot support this game any more, its just not fun any more for me and there are new games that are about to arrive that look like they meet my needs. To those players that I have had fun with I wish you well.

PS No you cannot have my stuff, I will keep an eye on Eve and you never know perhaps CCP can turn it around, if so then I might be back, but at this point its no longer a game that I can have fun playing.

Your reading comprehension is pretty poor, I said that 50% of the people in the organisation I joined had played Eve and 80% of them had left due to being ganked, that is a sample, read into it whatever you want to, but if that is your reading I am laughing at you.

Is that the best you can do, I suppose its a step up from R U mad bro...

Exactly. This was the same reason the corp I was in left a previous installment of hub zero. Because of relentlessy stating people where lying while they where not. Oh well, lets see this happen again in 2016. I'm looking forward to it.